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		<title>Dubious Fatima: Jacinta can&#8217;t save Lucia’s failed prophecy (video)</title>
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<p>Also see:</p>
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		<title>The false prophecies of Fatima and the missed events of cataclysmic doom</title>
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<p><em>(Disclaimer: the author of this article is a sedevacantist—a position which I firmly reject. However, the article focuses mainly on the Fatima apparition and its arguments are well supported. Generally, it seems free of bias and is an important and timely topic; therefore, I have obtained permission from the author to repost it here. —Timothy Fitzpatrick)</em></p>
<p><strong style="color: #404040; font-size: 1rem;">By </strong><strong style="color: #404040; font-size: 1rem;"><a href="https://stevensperay.wordpress.com/author/stevensperay/">Steven Speray<br />
</a></strong><span style="color: #404040; font-size: 1rem;">May 13, 2026 Anno Domini</span></p>
<p>We are not bound to believe in private revelations. When the Church presents liturgies or churches in honor of a private revelation such as an apparition, it doesn’t imply the revelation is true and must be believed. Our faith doesn’t depend on them at all.</p>
<p>A liturgy or church in honor of an apparition may appear that the Church believes in it, but this is a matter of perspective. It would appear the Church, at one time, believed popes could be deposed. It would appear that it believed the Roman line during the Great Western Schism was the true line. These opinions are just opinions.</p>
<p>What is not an opinion is the Church saying a private revelation is worthy of belief. When the Church says a private revelation is worthy of belief, it means it’s free from doctrinal or moral error, and this declaration must be accepted and believed. However, the Church is not saying the revelation is free from historical inaccuracies, silly ideas, fraud, or demonic activity. It may have all of the above.</p>
<p>The Mystical City of God by Mary of Agreda was approved by the Church. However, there are errors in the work. The Catholic Encyclopedia states:</p>
<p>In particular instances, these visionaries have been mistaken: thus <a href="https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01229a.htm">Marie de Agreda</a> teaches, like her contemporaries, the existence of crystal heavens, and declares that one must believe everything she says, although such an <a href="https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11189a.htm">obligation</a> exists only in the case of the <a href="https://www.newadvent.org/bible">Holy Scripture</a>. In 1771 <a href="https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04034a.htm">Clement XIV</a> forbade the continuation of her process of <a href="https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02364b.htm">beatification</a> “on account of the book”. [1]</p>
<p>Yet, in 1900, Pope Leo XIII granted an Apostolic Blessing to a Canadian lay woman who informed the pope of printing a book of all the instructions found at the end of each chapter in <em>The Mystical City of God</em>. Pope Leo XIII then ordered the book to be printed on the presses of the Sacred Congregation of the Propaganda in Rome. The book is titled <em>Sublime doctrine de la Mère de Dieu sur les vertus chrétiennes</em> (extrait de la ‘Cité mystique de Dieu’ par le Vén. Marie d’Agreda- Rome, Impr.de la Sacrée Congrégation de la Propagande, 1900. vii + 403pp.+ frontispiece.)</p>
<p>When I wrote about the problems with the apparition of Our Lady of Guadalupe [2], I discovered problems with the Fatima apparitions.</p>
<p>Much of what we’re told by Lucia of Fatima comes from her memoirs twenty years after the apparitions.</p>
<p>Bishop José Alves Correia da Silva approved the 1917 Fatima apparitions including the later apparitions in Spain as part of the Fatima message. For instance, Lucia claims that Our Lady appeared on December 10, 1925 at Pontevedra, to manifest Her Heart pierced with thorns, and to request the practice of the communion of reparation on the five First Saturdays of the month. The same bishop sanctioned the First Saturdays devotion on September 13, 1939.</p>
<p>According to Lucia, Our Lady came back one more time, on June 13, 1929, at Tuy, to ask for the consecration of Russia to Her Immaculate Heart, which is also included as part of the overall approval of Fatima.</p>
<p>The 1930 approval of Fatima is interesting despite the problems the Church noticed during its investigation.</p>
<p>With all charity, respect to the Church, and all those who strongly believe in Fatima, I would like to bring up some of those seriously troubling problems about Fatima. If we were in normal times, I would have submitted this to the Holy See, but under the circumstances, this is impossible. Also, due to the same set of circumstances, I believe this information is critical for Catholics and the continued questioning to what happened to the Church since the death of Pope Pius X in 1914. The Second Vatican Council didn’t come out of thin air. Who’s really responsible for this Great Revolt that’s been brewing long before Vatican 2? Does Fatima hold a key?</p>
<p>The following information comes from the Critical Documentation of Fatima at <a href="https://slatestarcodex.com/Stuff/fatima_critical1.pdf">fatima_critical1.pdf</a></p>
<p>In case one thinks the documentation is fake, one can also find much of the info in the 1950 book <a href="https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/true-story-of-fatima-5915">The True Story of Fatima | EWTN</a> by Fr. John de Marchi, I.M.C.</p>
<p><strong>First Problem</strong></p>
<p><strong>Clothing and jewelry that’s not proper for Our Lady</strong></p>
<p>The children described Our Lady:</p>
<p>“The attire consisted of a white cloak that reached from the head to the bottom of the skirt, gold from the waist down, with the strings crossing it, and from top to bottom, and the edges were more closely spaced. The skirt was white all over, with gold strings running along and across, but <strong>only reaching to the knee</strong>; a white coat, not gold, with only two or three strings at the cuffs; no shoes, <strong>white stockings</strong>, not gold; <strong>around the neck was a gold chain with a medal at the tips</strong>; her hands were raised; she had very <strong>small buttons on her ears</strong>, very close to her ears; she parted her hands when she spoke; she had black eyes; she was of medium height.” (emphasis mine) (Fatima Doc. 1 1917-05-c.27  Interrogation of Father Manuel Marques Ferreira, parish priest of Fátima, to Lúcia de Jesus Santos about the first apparition.)</p>
<p>The apparition doesn’t appear to be Our Lady, especially with a skirt reaching only to the knee, with white stockings, necklace, and earrings. Imagine an image of Our Lady as described being reproduced and placed in churches to be venerated. The image shown above is the best most reverent image I could generate based on the children’s description. It should not be a problem having a statue as described in church by an apparition approved as worthy of belief, but it is a huge problem!</p>
<p><strong>Second Problem and Serious Issue</strong></p>
<p><strong>Two Major False Prophecies from Fatima</strong></p>
<p>If we go back to the day of the “miracle of the sun” Lucia was telling everyone on Oct. 13, 1917 that World War 1 would end that day. After the “miracle” of the sun on Oct. 13, Father Manuel Marques Ferreira interviewed Lucia on Oct. 16. Lucia tells him that Our Lady told her:</p>
<p>“I want to tell you not to offend Our Lord anymore; that they pray the rosary to Our Lady; build a little chapel here for Our Lady of the Rosary (Lúcia is unsure whether it was like that: build a little chapel here, I am Our Lady of the Rosary); <strong>the war ends today</strong>; wait here for your military, very soon.”</p>
<p>In another interview three days later on Oct. 19, 1917, she told Father Manuel Nunes Formigão STD, JCD:</p>
<p>She [Our Lady] said: “<strong>The war ends today;</strong> wait here for your soldiers very soon.”</p>
<p>Fr Formigão: Did she say: “wait here for your military” or “wait here for your soldiers”?</p>
<p>She said: “Wait here for the military.”</p>
<p>Fr Formigão:  But look, the war is still going on!… The newspapers report that there have been fights since the thirteenth!… How can this be explained, if Our Lady said that the war ended on that day?</p>
<p>Lucia: I don’t know<strong>. I only know that I heard her say that the war would end on the 13th.</strong> I don’t know anything else</p>
<p>Fr Formigão:  Some people say that they heard you say on that day that Our Lady had declared that the war would end soon. Is this true?</p>
<p>[Lucia] I said it just as Our Lady had said it.</p>
<p>Fr Formigão also asked Jacinta on the same day:</p>
<p>Did she say that the war would end that day or that it would end soon?</p>
<p>Jacinta: Our Lady said that when she got to heaven, the war would end.</p>
<p>Fr Formigão: But the war isn’t over yet!</p>
<p>Jacinta: It is ending, it is ending</p>
<p>Fr Formigão: But when will it end?</p>
<p>Jacinta: I think it ends on Sunday.</p>
<p>In yet another interview following Oct. 13, Father António dos Santos Alves writes:</p>
<p>[Our Lady] told [the children] that she was Our Lady of the Rosary; that <strong>the war ended that day</strong>; that our soldiers would soon come; that they were to build a chapel to Our Lady of the Rosary on the site of the apparition and that the people amend their sins that have greatly offended her Son.</p>
<p>If Lucia misunderstood back when she actually heard Our Lady, how is it that she would remember so clearly 20 years later when writing her memoirs?</p>
<p>The excuse given was that exhaustive interrogating to exhausted children caused them to get the date wrong. That might be the case for little Jacinta, but Lucia doubled-down, even triple-downed her assertion that the war would end on Oct. 13, 1917. The end of the war date would be one thing you would remember and Lucia most certainly remembered it!</p>
<p>This huge contradiction and weird description of Our Lady’s appearance are overlooked by the “miracle of the sun” and massive influence of the people in persuading the authorities to accepting the whole thing and approving belief in it.</p>
<p>Bottom line, Lucia got it wrong repeatedly, which is highly unlikely, indicating a false apparition. If she got it wrong so badly within a couple of days, how can we trust anything that she said, not to mention what she recounts by memory twenty years later as seen in her memoirs? Her own parish priest Father Manuel Marques Ferreira never believed the story even after the “miracle” of the sun. He thought it was all demonic!</p>
<p>The failed second prophecy is far worse!</p>
<p><strong>Second False Prophecy and the Third Secret</strong></p>
<p>Lucia told Father Augustin Fuentes on December 26, 1957,</p>
<p><em>“Father, the Most Holy Virgin is very sad because no one has paid any attention to Her message, neither the good nor the bad. The good continue on their way but without giving any importance to Her message. The bad, not seeing the punishment of God actually falling upon them, continue their life of sin without even caring about the message. But believe me, Father, God will chastise the world and this will be in a terrible manner. The punishment from Heaven is imminent.</em></p>
<p><em>Father, how much time is there before 1960 arrives? It will be very sad for everyone, not one person will rejoice at all if beforehand the world does not pray and do penance. I am not able to give any other details because it is still a secret. By the will of the Blessed Virgin, only the Holy Father and the Bishop of Fatima can know the secret. Both have chosen, however, not to open it in order not to be influenced by it.</em></p>
<p><em>This is the third part of the Message of Our Lady, which will remain secret until 1960.</em></p>
<p><em> Tell them, Father, that many times the most Holy Virgin told my cousins Francisco and Jacinta, as well as myself, that many nations will disappear from the face of the earth. She said that Russia will be the instrument of chastisement chosen by Heaven to punish the whole world if we do not beforehand obtain the conversion of that poor nation.</em></p>
<p><em>Father, the devil is in the mood for engaging in a decisive battle against the Blessed Virgin. And the devil knows what it is that most offends God and which in a short space of time will gain for him the greatest number of souls.</em> <em>Thus, the devil does everything to overcome souls consecrated to God, because in this way, the devil will succeed in leaving the souls of the faithful abandoned by their leaders, thereby the more easily will he seize them.</em></p>
<p>According to Lucia, part of the third secret is also part of the great chastisement that happens between 1957 and 1960.</p>
<p>Cardinal Ottaviani asked Lucia 1955 why not before 1960, and she said, “Because then it will seem clearer (<em>mais claro</em>).” In fact, she stated, “it cannot be made known before 1960.” When pressed to why it had to be in 1960, she and Bishop José Correia da Silva replied to<strong> </strong>Canon Barthas in 1946: “<em>Because the Blessed Virgin wishes it so</em>.”</p>
<p>We see wars and people dying in the first two secrets. In the third secret, we hear about another major chastisement which will happen between 1957 and 1960.</p>
<p>Lucia said the world (not the Church) was going to be punished severely. The world would understand the contents of the third secret when revealed in 1960 just as people would understand the second secret when revealed after the fact. (World War 2 and revealed by Lucia in 1941.)</p>
<p>Logically, the election of Roncalli couldn’t be this part of the secret because in 1960, virtually everyone believed him to be a true pope and rejoiced something Lucia said would not happen. There would be no rejoicing.</p>
<p>The secret couldn’t say we have a fake pope only to be revealed by a fake pope. Therefore, it couldn’t have referred to the pope as some type of imposter pope.</p>
<p>Another critical point is that Lucia said, “<em>In Portugal the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved</em>.”</p>
<p>If we draw an inference that this might mean apostasy in other places around the world, where would this be seen in 1960 from something from within 2 years prior to 1960?</p>
<p>The question is what kind of terrible chastisement would befall on the whole world that could be seen by 1960 that would be as big as the first two secrets to verify the prophecy was true?  Again, we’re talking about part of the third secret because that is what Lucia said.</p>
<p>China was the only country to suffer a major chastisement with the <strong>Great Leap Forward (1958–1962),</strong> which caused the Great Chinese Famine, resulting in an estimated 15 to 55 million deaths. This is huge for China, but not the world.</p>
<p>Surely, the great chastisement Lucia is referring would be greater than China’s catastrophe.</p>
<p>Think of all the possibilities and what we find is absolutely nothing!</p>
<p>If any other religion put something out like this, we Catholics would call it out for what it is, a false prophecy, because that’s simply what it is.</p>
<p>We have another false prophecy. However, the Church did not approve this prophecy as told in 1957 as worthy of belief. It was unknown when approved in 1930. Is Lucia not trustworthy? Does the whole Fatima event and the false prophecies go hand in hand? Absolutely!</p>
<p><strong>Third Problem and Serious Issue</strong></p>
<p><strong>Too many exceptions are needed.</strong></p>
<p>Fatima is nothing like Lourdes and St. Bernadette. The message at Lourdes was nothing new to Catholicism. It confirmed a recent dogma. The three secrets were for Bernadette herself. Its message was simple with a miraculous healing spring as a reward for having faith. It was a beautiful and wonderful event in every way. No real problems, no real confusions.</p>
<p>Fatima on the other hand has everything Lourdes doesn’t: Problems, Confusions, Demands or else, and Major prophecies that don’t come as stated.</p>
<p>When the angel appeared in the beginning, he gave the children Communion. Jacinta and Francesco hadn’t even received their First Communion yet. When Francesco received from the Chalice, he asked Lucia what he had received because he was unaware of what it was.</p>
<p>There are several strange things about this occurrence. In the West, we don’t receive from the Chalice and preparation and knowledge of Communion is absolutely demanded for those of the age of reason. Infants don’t need to know because they are not able. However, when the Sacraments are given to those of the age of reason, it’s imperative to understand what’s being received except perhaps in cases of danger of death.</p>
<p>If the angel is truly from Heaven, why would he go against the norms of the Church on such an important thing as Holy Communion? How would or could you know he was truly from Heaven if the only way to test the spirit are by the norms of the Church?</p>
<p>In the West, we fast before Communion, but are we to expect the children had no breakfast that day? It’s possible, but it seems like one exception after another is needed to legitimize the event as coming from Heaven.</p>
<p>We are not told about the angel story in 1916 or 1917 but years later in 1937 and 1941 by Lucia through her memoirs. Why did it take over twenty years before we hear about this incredible angel story?</p>
<p>The problem with the story is the strange way Holy Communion was given to the children under the circumstances. St. John tells us, <strong>“believe not every spirit, but try the spirits if they be of God.”</strong> (I John 4:1) We test the spirits with Catholic belief and practice. Yet, the actions of the angel were contrary to Catholic belief and practice. However, the Church didn’t approve of the angel story because it came from the memoirs of Lucia over twenty years after the fact.</p>
<p>Lastly, if there’s no doctrinal problems with Fatima, does that mean receiving Communion without knowledge what’s being received at the age of reason not problematic doctrinally? If problematic, does that not call into question the approval by the Church? Should the Church not have warned or explained this problematic detail? Does the approval of Fatima call into question whether it’s really the Church doing the approving, especially in light of the missed prophecies?</p>
<p>Other problems with Fatima are covered in the Footnotes. However, these three suffice to show Fatima is not from Heaven.</p>
<p><strong>What about the Miracle of the Sun?</strong></p>
<p>The miracle of the sun was also seen many times at Medjugorja. I had friends who not only saw the miracle of the sun at Medjugorja, but their rosary beads turned to gold on each bead as they prayed it. They were strong believers in John Paul 2 and the Vatican 2 religion because of Medjugorja. Yet, these apparitions have blunt heresies even by Vatican 2 standards.</p>
<p>I have another friend who saw the miracle of the sun at Garabandal. The apparitions of Garabandal from 1961 to 1965 also have other spectacular miracles, yet its prophecies also failed miserably proving it to be a false apparition.</p>
<p>What I find interesting is that not all 70,000 people saw the “miracle” on that day as reported by apparitionists. Many reported seeing nothing unusual, which of course included the many skeptics, atheists, etc. the very ones that would need to see to believe. Everyone described the event quite differently, too.</p>
<p>The skeptical explanations for the “miracle” are also quite reasonable. In Pentecostal settings, we see how the power of suggestion make masses of people believe they’ve been “slain in the spirit.” I’ve seen it first-hand. “Speaking in tongues” is another example. We definitely see the power of suggestion at Fatima and many other places. Combine that with starring at the sun for a long period of time and then expecting to see something unusual. If a real weather condition happened on that day with all the other conditions, the event would certainly be magnified.</p>
<p>We read about this very thing in the book “God and the Sun of Fatima” written by the priest, physicist and philosopher of science, Father Stanley L Jaki, who believed in Fatima.</p>
<p>Fr. Jaki tells of the devout Catholic lawyer and Third Order Franciscan Domingo Pintos Coelho who was there in the Cova on Oct. 13, 1917. He published what he witnessed that day on Oct. 16<sup>th</sup> in the local Catholic newspaper titled “Ordem.” (Keep in mind that in 1917, permission to write and publish on the Church was required as seen in canon law.)</p>
<p>Jaki didn’t like what Coelho wrote and breaks down everything he wrote to make Coelho appear to look irresponsible and/or faithless. However, Jaki was a strong believer in the miracle and he wouldn’t let anything get in his way in spreading what he believed was a miracle, but the fact remains that there is another side to the story.</p>
<p>Coelho wrote (p. 53): The leading newspapers began to speak of this case with great frequency and it will therefore be good not to reach a wrong conclusion before considering some ideas that rightly present themselves in cases of this nature. It is clear that as Catholics we accept the full possibility of the miracle. God, since He made the laws which rule natural phenomena, can also alter or suspend them. Simply put, a miracle is an exception. And exceptions are not presumed. They require certain proof. The Catholic Church has constantly insisted on the matter of proofs before it would agree to establishing the miraculous character of any fact of series of facts.</p>
<p>He continued in the next few pages…</p>
<p>In reference to what happened on Saturday the thirteenth, we can give witness because we were there, not as a pilgrim, note that well, but as a curious spectator.</p>
<p>From eleven until one-thirty the rain was constant and driven by a strong wind; a frankly rough and disagreeable weather which the enormous crowd of many thousands of people endured with excellent humor, without shelter other than rain hats and the vehicles, since not even one building is to be found in the vicinity.</p>
<p>Thirty-seven and a half minutes after one o’clock—or noon by solar time—was the hour set for the vision with which it was hoped that the phenomena in the heavens would coincide.</p>
<p>At this moment it continued to rain.</p>
<p>Some moments later the rain slackened and at one forty-five it stopped altogether. The sun, until then concealed, showed itself among the clouds that moved fairly fast. Because their density was variable, the veil which they threw over the king of stars [sun] was diaphanous. Like the multitude, we then looked toward the sun with rapt attention, and through the clouds, we saw it under new aspects—new for us, mark it well… Now surrounded by reddish flames, now with a ring of yellow or bright violet, now seemingly enlivened by a very rapid rotating movement, now even apparently detaching itself from the sky, approaching the earth, and giving forth a strong heat…</p>
<p>Why deny it? These phenomena, which we had never before witnessed, impressed us greatly. Among the crowds, a collective psychology established itself. And generally speaking there passed over the vast majority of that crowd a tremendous wave of faith that was very moving.</p>
<p>But then Coelho continues to explain….</p>
<p>One doubt remained with us, however.</p>
<p>Was what we saw in the sun an exceptional thing? Or could it be reproduced in analogous circumstances?</p>
<p>Now it was precisely this analogy of circumstances that presented itself to us yesterday [Sunday]. We could see the sun half overcast with clouds as on Saturday. And sincerely, we saw on that day the same succession of colors, the same rotary movement, etc.</p>
<p>(p. 57)</p>
<p>Coelho concluded his article:</p>
<p>Eliminating, then, the only extraordinary fact, what remains? Right now, the statements of the three children and nothing else.</p>
<p>It is very little.</p>
<p>Will the children be found sincere? We have no reason to doubt that they will be; their humble state is a guarantee of this for us.</p>
<p>We ask pardon for the crabbed stories of the investigators of popular belief who have attributed mysterious profit motives to the shepherds, for not believing this story without proof. Do the strongminded [<em>espiritos fortes</em> or freethinkers] want us to believe without proof? Very well. But with the same right we could demand from those who see in all this but Jesuit trickeries the same proofs they demand from us, regardless of whether they find them inconvenient and therefore dispense with them.</p>
<p><strong>In sum, we returned from Fatima in the same state of mind in which we went there—in doubt.</strong></p>
<p>Was there a miracle, were there apparitions? It is possible but between possibility and reality there is an abyss.</p>
<p>We will therefore continue with an open mind, benevolent, if so desired, but nothing more.</p>
<p>And let us be permitted to advise those who by their position and intelligence can influence others not to go beyond this limit.</p>
<p>(pp. 59-60)</p>
<p>After this article was published on Oct. 16<sup>th</sup>, 1917, Coelho published another article the next day Oct. 17, again, talking about Fatima.</p>
<p>If miracles are rare today, it does not mean that they can no longer occur. For example, the lives of Don Bosco, the founder of the Salesians, and of the Curé d’ Ars were full of miracles. The history of Lourdes is also a series of miracles verified with the greatest rigor. …</p>
<p><strong>St. Augustine says: “A miracle should never be proclaimed when a natural explanation is possible”.</strong></p>
<p>This rule has always been scrupulously observed by the Church, the teacher of truth.</p>
<p>Now what did we say about the case of Fatima? That <strong>we</strong>, the obscure author of these lines, <strong>had not observed any fact that would prompt us to consider as supernatural.</strong> But not only did we treat it from a personal and unauthorized point of view but in no way did we wish to disclaim the observations which others have made and which differ from ours.</p>
<p>We would want nothing more than to witness events to which no natural explanation can be fitted. <strong>Our disappointment was great, when on Sunday, as we said, we verified the vacuity of what on the day before had seemed to be miraculous</strong>; our disappointment was heightened since we were greatly impressed by the coincidence that the rain of three hours’ duration had stopped almost exactly at the moment when the children prayed, and that the sun then appeared in the clouds.</p>
<p>Simply put, it is necessary in a matter of such weight not to yield to the principle <em>Quod vohumus facile credimus</em>.</p>
<p>We therefore conclude as we did yesterday: it is fitting to replace premature enthusiasm with the most prudent reserve. If in Fatima there is something of the supernatural our holding back will not impede the march of events upon which God in His infinite wisdom has decided.</p>
<p>On the other hand, a fiasco following hasty exaltation would not fail to be exploited by the enemies of the Church; they are always numerous, very active, and constantly on the watch for the propitious moment for the attack.</p>
<p>End of Coelho.</p>
<p>Coelho called the “Miracle of the Sun” vacuous and he got backlash immediately by other papers. I included this report to show there was another side, which many apparitionists don’t include in their stories. Jaki was an exception.</p>
<p>Simply put, the “miracle” of the sun doesn’t prove a heavenly apparition. The devout Catholic lawyer and writer who witnessed the event didn’t even think it was miraculous and publicly tells us so in two articles in a Catholic magazine within a week of the “miracle”. The same so-called miracle of the sun is seen at all the modern apparition sites, which we know are false. Yet, it was this very “miracle” that has convinced most Catholics that Fatima is a true apparition from Heaven.</p>
<p><strong>Conclusion</strong></p>
<p>The prophecies definitely failed. Is that the fault of Fatima or Lucia? We don’t separate the two. However, we know that Garabandal was false precisely because of the false prophecies. Why are the false prophecies of Fatima overlooked?</p>
<p>People would rather believe in a hoax, a deception of the devil, or any lie if it makes them feel better. The pope, many bishops, and many theologians and canonists have bought into Fatima but that doesn’t mean it’s true. They bought into Our Lady of Guadalupe apparition and it’s a proven myth where the Church tells us Marcos Aquino painted the image and not a single priest historian during that time mentions Juan Diego or the apparition while telling the whole history of Mexico. They even explain the millions of converts. See footnote [2] for the proof.</p>
<p>The Church has declared that nothing in the Fatima apparition is heretical or dangerous morally or doctrinally. However, is it possible the Fatima apparitions are a demonic deception as a distraction to something else? For instance, what was really behind the Spanish Flu and Vaccines? See page 27 of the <a href="https://indepthnh.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/COVID-Report-from-Rep.-Weyler-3.pdf">COVID-Report-from-Rep.-Weyler-3.pdf</a></p>
<p>Both Jacinta and Francisco Marto were killed by the Spanish Flu. 100 million people died from this chastisement that’s never mentioned by “Our Lady” of Fatima. That’s as many people as both world wars put together! How could the Spanish Flu be overlooked? How is it still overlooked? This missed cataclysmic catastrophe is enough to call into doubt the whole Fatima event as something not from Heaven! Besides the Flu, what about the vaccines? We don’t even know the real death numbers to all the vaccinated throughout the last 100 years.</p>
<p>What’s more, even the Chinese catastrophe is overlooked when Lucia said the whole world would suffer some great chastisement between 1957 to 1960 that never came to pass.</p>
<p>Another possible deception by distraction concerns the Church. Is Fatima a demonic plan hidden within the demonic plan? What was going on with the Church then? After all, following the death of Pope Pius X, his successor, Pope Benedict XV, immediately began to ease the intense crackdown on “Modernism” that had characterized the previous pontificate. One of his first moves was to remove the staunch anti-modernist Cardinal Merry del Val as Secretary of State and replaced him with the liberal Cardinal Pietro Gasparri.</p>
<p>In his first encyclical <em>Ad Beatissimi Apostolorum</em>, Benedict XV requested that the accusations of modernism stop. He writes, “23 As regards matters in which without harm to faith or discipline – in the absence of any authoritative intervention of the Apostolic See – there is room for divergent opinions, it is clearly the right of everyone to express and defend his own opinion. But in such discussions no expressions should be used which might constitute serious breaches of charity; let each one freely defend his own opinion, but let it be done with due moderation, so that no one should consider himself entitled to affix on those who merely do not agree with his ideas the stigma of disloyalty to faith or to discipline.”</p>
<p>Other key individuals who regained freedom of action or saw their previous restrictions eased include Moderate Modernist sympathizers and scholars. The <em>Sodalitium Pianum</em> (a network of informants established by Pius X) was largely ended by Benedict XV. Those who had been ostracized or prevented from teaching under the anti-modernist oath were given more freedom.</p>
<p>Many of the French clergy who were under intense pressure during the separation of church and state (and accused of being too compromising) found more space for dialogue under Benedict XV. The anti-modernist plan under Pope Pius X never returned and we begin to see the ugly head of modernism in the hideous architecture of church building and women getting into public offices throughout the pontificates of Benedict XV, Pius XI, and Pius XII.</p>
<p>Are we really surprised we got a Second Vatican Council? Talk about cataclysmic doom!</p>
<p>We see more Fatima issues in our times with all kinds of ideas and conspiracies floating around with the 3rd secret predictions, consecration of Russia, the triumph of the Immaculate Heart, etc. all of which have nothing to do with the real Gospel, and which confuse the end times as told in Scripture. There’s no end to Fatima predictions, which are borderline heretical if not heretical. Just more distractions.</p>
<p>All these are the bad fruits of Fatima and there’s more bad tasting fruit waiting for you in footnote [3].</p>
<p>We know how Pope Leo XIII in the 1880’s tells us how in his vision Christ gives the Devil the time and power to deceive the Church. Was Fatima part of that plan in the grand scheme of things?</p>
<p>Based on these and other problems, Fatima appears to be a real and great deception of the devil to fool the masses to distract from something far greater!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Footnotes:</p>
<p>[1]<strong> </strong><a href="https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13005a.htm">CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Private Revelations</a></p>
<p>[2] <a href="https://stevensperay.wordpress.com/2025/01/26/getting-real-with-our-lady-of-guadalupe-part-i/">Problems with the Story of Our Lady of Guadalupe – Part I</a></p>
<p><a href="https://stevensperay.wordpress.com/2025/02/03/getting-real-with-our-lady-of-guadalupe-part-ii/">Problems with the Story of Our Lady of Guadalupe – Part II</a></p>
<p>[3] Other problems with Fatima include:</p>
<p><strong>Fatima becomes a tool for the Vatican 2 religion</strong></p>
<p>Roncalli (“Pope John XXIII”) read the contents of the third secret. He knew the prophecy and the fact that it hadn’t come to pass. He said the third secret was not for “our times” and he refused to reveal it. Cardinal Silvio Oddi confronted him over not revealing the secret in 1960. John XXIII told Oddi, “Do not speak to me of this again.” It seems he refused to read the third secret in 1960 because he it didn’t square with his plans. Did he even believe in Fatima, since he refused to do what was supposed to be asked of him? It would appear not. In 1962, at the Second Vatican Council, John XXIII referred to the three seers of Fatima as “Prophets of Doom.”</p>
<p>One thing is for sure, Fatima can be useful, everyone knew it, and it was!</p>
<p>John XXIII called Fatima, “the center of all Christian hopes.” Fatima was used to bolster the Vatican 2 teaching on Our Lady.</p>
<p>Fatima was later used by John Paul 2 to legitimize his legacy as the Marian and Fatima Pope. The attempted assassination of John Paul 2 in 1981, occurred exactly at the same time as the apparition of Our Lady in Fatima, and it is believed by many Vatican 2 Catholics that Our Lady of Fatima saved the life of their beloved pope.</p>
<p>John Paul II visited Fatima, Portugal, three times (1982, 1991, 2000) to thank Our Lady for saving his life during the May 13, 1981, assassination attempt. He famously placed the bullet that struck him into the crown of the Fatima statue, formally consecrated the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, and beatified the shepherd children Francisco and Jacinta.</p>
<p>The Vatican revealed what they called the third secret which stated that the “Holy Father…was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him.” It continues to say other clergy, religious, and lay people were also killed one after another in the same place.</p>
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<p>The Vatican left out anything about apostasy or anything like that. As bad as their obvious fake third secret was, the Vatican also claimed the secret referred to the assassination attempt on John Paul 2.</p>
<p>If Sister Lucia died at some point around 1960 as many think and replaced with an imposter, the Vatican would use her to legitimize itself. For instance, the Lucia of 1984 said John Paul II’s consecration of Russia fulfilled the request of Our Lady.</p>
<p>She is used in many other ways that’s irrelevant insofar as this article is concerned, but the point is Vatican 2 Catholics are hooked on Fatima because it points to their “Pope” and “Saint” John Paul 2.</p>
<p>Whether or not the 1984 Lucia was the real one or not (I think not), Fatima is constantly in the forefront in the minds of everyone who calls himself Catholic.</p>
<p>A fake Lucia keeps the Fatima deception going for Vatican 2 Catholics believing John Paul 2 was great and the Vatican 2 religion is true, or perhaps expecting a pope to consecrate Russia correctly as asked. Many traditional Catholics expect a pope to consecrate Russia so that the nation converts to Catholicism. Many sedevantists are expecting a special triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary where a Church comes out of this great apostasy with a true pope because that’s how Fatima is interpreted.</p>
<p>We know that Our Lady would know the future as even Fatima indicates. Would she present herself at Fatima knowing full well how Fatima is used against real Catholicism with so much vagueness, confusion, and division? Perhaps, but it also seems to fit the biblical prophecy in II Thess. 2:10.</p>
<p>Fatima keeps people in the Vatican 2 religion.</p>
<p><strong>Unnecessary cause for division among Catholics and contradiction</strong></p>
<p>Almost no Catholic says the Fatima prayer in the Rosary correctly. William Thomas Walsh interviewed Lucia and she flatly denied what Fr. Jenkins of the SSPV said about it. It’s on page 225 of the 1947 book Our Lady of Fatima:</p>
<p>“In many books about Fatima, the prayer Our Lady asked you to say after the decades of the Rosary is given in some such form as this: ‘O my Jesus, pardon our sins, save us from the fire of hell, have mercy on the souls in Purgatory, especially the most abandoned.’ Is that correct?” “No, it is not,” she replied positively. “The correct form is the one I have written in my account of the apparition on July 13: ‘O my Jesus, pardon us, and save us from the fire of hell; draw all souls to heaven, especially those in most need.”</p>
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<p>What happens when those who believe are mixed with those who don’t believe when praying the Rosary together? This may not be a big deal but the next thing I’ll mention most certainly is.</p>
<p>Apparitionists demand Fatima be believed and accepted when the Church demands no such thing. While it permits belief in Fatima, it doesn’t demand it. The Church doesn’t say Fatima is true.</p>
<p>However, the message is for the pope to do something or else. Acceptance of Fatima becomes critical.</p>
<p>If Fatima is true, then the pope better do it and do it right. It’s not just about believing or not believing a private revelation. Lives are at stake because Communism is the most murderous state ever seen in history. Accepting, believing, and obeying Fatima concerns the expansion of Communism and the results thereof.</p>
<p>There’s a threat to the world if the pope doesn’t do what’s asked in a private revelation. It really fuels the apparitionists demand for belief and in a strong way vindicates apparitionists in their position on apparitions. How can such a condition be merely a private revelation that may or may not be accepted? It just so happens that Pope Pius XII nor any Vatican 2 pope did what Our Lady of Fatima asked, so did any of them truly believe in Fatima?</p>
<p>Fatima is a private revelation, yet it demands belief outside of the usual parameters of the Catholic Faith, which is precisely what a private revelation can’t do or can it? We have major divisions and animosity over an apparition.</p>
<p>ORIGINAL FIRST DRAFT BELOW</p>
<p>The Great Fatima Distraction?</p>
<p>We are not bound to believe in private revelations. When the Church presents liturgies or churches in honor of a private revelation such as an apparition, it doesn’t imply the revelation is true and must be believed. Our faith doesn’t depend on them at all.</p>
<p>A liturgy or church in honor of an apparition may appear that the Church believes in it, but this is a matter of perspective. It would appear the Church, at one time, believed popes could be deposed. It would appear that it believed the Roman line during the Great Western Schism was the true line. These opinions are just opinions. The Church has opinions, too, and private revelations are one of them.</p>
<p>What is not an opinion is the Church saying a private revelation is worthy of belief. When the Church says a private revelation is worthy of belief, it means it’s free from doctrinal or moral error, and this declaration must be accepted and believed. However, the Church saying a private revelation, such as an apparition is worthy of belief, it doesn’t imply it’s free from historical inaccuracies, silly ideas, fraud, or demonic activity. It may have all of the above.</p>
<p>The Mystical City of God by Mary of Agreda was approved by the Church. However, there are errors in the work. The Catholic Encyclopedia states:</p>
<p>In particular instances, these visionaries have been mistaken: thus <a href="https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01229a.htm">Marie de Agreda</a> teaches, like her contemporaries, the existence of crystal heavens, and declares that one must believe everything she says, although such an <a href="https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11189a.htm">obligation</a> exists only in the case of the <a href="https://www.newadvent.org/bible">Holy Scripture</a>. In 1771 <a href="https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04034a.htm">Clement XIV</a> forbade the continuation of her process of <a href="https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02364b.htm">beatification</a> &#8220;on account of the book&#8221;. [1]</p>
<p>Yet, in 1900, Pope Leo XIII granted an Apostolic Blessing to a Canadian lay woman who informed the pope of printing a book of all the instructions found at the end of each chapter in The Mystical City of God. Pope Leo XIII then ordered the book to be printed on the presses of the Sacred Congregation of the Propaganda in Rome. The book titled Sublime doctrine de la Mère de Dieu sur les vertus chrétiennes (extrait de la ‘Cité mystique de Dieu’ par le Vén. Marie d’Agreda- Rome, Impr.de la Sacrée Congrégation de la Propagande, 1900. vii + 403pp.+ frontispiece.)</p>
<p>When I wrote about the problems with the apparition of Our Lady of Guadalupe [2], I discovered problems with the Fatima apparitions.</p>
<p>Much of what we’re told by Lucia of Fatima comes 20 years after the apparitions.</p>
<p>Bishop José Alves Correia da Silva approved the 1917 Fatima apparitions including the later apparitions in Spain as part of the Fatima message. For instance, Lucia claims that Our Lady appeared on December 10, 1925 at Pontevedra, to manifest Her Heart pierced with thorns, and to request the practice of the communion of reparation on the five First Saturdays of the month. The same bishop sanctioned the First Saturdays devotion on September 13, 1939.</p>
<p>According to Lucia, Our Lady came back one more time, on June 13, 1929, at Tuy, to ask for the consecration of Russia to Her Immaculate Heart, which is also included as part of the overall approval of Fatima.</p>
<p>The 1930 approval of Fatima is interesting considering some problems the Church noticed during its investigation.</p>
<p>With all charity, respect to the Church, and all those who strongly believe in Fatima, I would like to bring up some those seriously troubling issues about Fatima. The following information comes from the Critical Documentation of Fatima at <a href="https://slatestarcodex.com/Stuff/fatima_critical1.pdf">fatima_critical1.pdf</a></p>
<p>In case one thinks the documentation is fake, one can also find much of the info in the 1950 book <a href="https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/true-story-of-fatima-5915">The True Story of Fatima | EWTN</a> by Fr. John de Marchi, I.M.C.</p>
<p><strong>First Issue</strong></p>
<p><strong>Our Lady’s clothing and jewelry are not proper for Our Lady</strong></p>
<p>The children described Our Lady:</p>
<p>“The attire consisted of a white cloak that reached from the head to the bottom of the skirt, gold from the waist down, with the strings crossing it, and from top to bottom, and the edges were more closely spaced. The skirt was white all over, with gold strings running along and across, but <strong>only reaching to the knee</strong>; a white coat, not gold, with only two or three strings at the cuffs; no shoes, <strong>white stockings</strong>, not gold; <strong>around the neck was a gold chain with a medal at the tips</strong>; her hands were raised; she had very <strong>small buttons on her ears</strong>, very close to her ears; she parted her hands when she spoke; <strong>she had black eyes</strong>; she was of medium height.” (emphasis mine) (Fatima Doc. 1 1917-05-c.27 Interrogation of Father Manuel Marques Ferreira, parish priest of Fátima, to Lúcia de Jesus Santos about the first apparition.)</p>
<p>The bottom line, the apparition doesn’t appear to be Our Lady. If we made an image of Our Lady as described, would it be accepted by the Church, reproduced, and placed inside churches? After all, it should not be problem with a statue as described in church by an apparition approved as worthy of belief.</p>
<p><strong>Second Serious Issue</strong></p>
<p><strong>Two Major False Prophecies from Fatima</strong></p>
<p>If we go back to the day of the “miracle of the sun” Lucia was telling everyone on Oct. 13, 1917 that WW1 would end that day. After the “miracle” of the sun on Oct. 13, Father Manuel Marques Ferreira interviewed Lucia on Oct. 16. Lucia tells him that Our Lady told her:</p>
<p>“I want to tell you not to offend Our Lord anymore; that they pray the rosary to Our Lady; build a little chapel here for Our Lady of the Rosary (Lúcia is unsure whether it was like that: build a little chapel here, I am Our Lady of the Rosary); <strong>the war ends today</strong>; wait here for your military, very soon.”</p>
<p>In another interview three days later on Oct. 19, 1917, she told Father Manuel Nunes Formigão STD, JCD:</p>
<p>She [Our Lady] said: “<strong>The war ends today;</strong> wait here for your soldiers very soon.”</p>
<p>Fr Formigão: Did she say: “wait here for your military” or “wait here for your soldiers”?</p>
<p>She said: “Wait here for the military.”</p>
<p>Fr Formigão:  But look, the war is still going on!&#8230; The newspapers report that there have been fights since the thirteenth!&#8230; How can this be explained, if Our Lady said that the war ended on that day?</p>
<p>Lucia: I don&#8217;t know<strong>. I only know that I heard her say that the war would end on the 13th.</strong> I don&#8217;t know anything else</p>
<p>Fr Formigão:  Some people say that they heard you say on that day that Our Lady had declared that the war would end soon. Is this true?</p>
<p>[Lucia] I said it just as Our Lady had said it.</p>
<p>Fr Formigão also asked Jacinta on the same day:</p>
<p>Did she say that the war would end that day or that it would end soon?</p>
<p>Jacinta: Our Lady said that when she got to heaven, the war would end.</p>
<p>Fr Formigão: But the war isn&#8217;t over yet!</p>
<p>Jacinta: It is ending, it is ending</p>
<p>Fr Formigão: But when will it end?</p>
<p>Jacinta: I think it ends on Sunday.</p>
<p>In yet another interview following Oct. 13, Father António dos Santos Alves writes:</p>
<p>[Our Lady] told [the children] that she was Our Lady of the Rosary; that <strong>the war ended that day</strong>; that our soldiers would soon come; that they were to build a chapel to Our Lady of the Rosary on the site of the apparition and that the people amend their sins that have greatly offended her Son.</p>
<p>If Lucia misunderstood back when she actually heard Our Lady, how is it that she would remember so clearly 20 years later when writing her memoirs?</p>
<p>The excuse that exhaustive interrogating to exhausted children caused them to get the date wrong. That might be the case for little Jacinta, but Lucia doubled-down, even triple-downed her assertion that the war would end on Oct. 13, 1917. The end of the war date would be one thing you would remember and Lucia most certainly remembered it!</p>
<p>This huge contradiction and weird description of Our Lady’s appearance are overlooked by the miracle of the sun and massive influence of the people in persuading the authorities to accepting the whole thing and approving belief in it.</p>
<p>Bottom line, Lucia got it wrong repeatedly at the time or the apparition is false. If she got it wrong so badly within a week, how can we trust her memory twenty years later from her memoirs? Her own parish priest Father Manuel Marques Ferreira never believed the story even after the “miracle” of the sun. He thought it was all demonic!</p>
<p>The second prophecy is far worse!</p>
<p><strong>Second False Prophecy and the Third Secret </strong></p>
<p>Lucia told Father Augustin Fuentes on December 26, 1957,</p>
<p><em>“Father, the Most Holy Virgin is very sad because no one has paid any attention to Her message, neither the good nor the bad. The good continue on their way but without giving any importance to Her message. The bad, not seeing the punishment of God actually falling upon them, continue their life of sin without even caring about the message. But believe me, Father, God will chastise the world and this will be in a terrible manner. The punishment from Heaven is imminent.</em></p>
<p><em>Father, how much time is there before 1960 arrives? It will be very sad for everyone, not one person will rejoice at all if beforehand the world does not pray and do penance. I am not able to give any other details because it is still a secret. By the will of the Blessed Virgin, only the Holy Father and the Bishop of Fatima can know the secret. Both have chosen, however, not to open it in order not to be influenced by it.</em></p>
<p><em>This is the third part of the Message of Our Lady, which will remain secret until 1960.</em></p>
<p><a id="post-21337-tellthem"></a><em> Tell them, Father, that many times the most Holy Virgin told my cousins Francisco and Jacinta, as well as myself, that many nations will disappear from the face of the earth. She said that Russia will be the instrument of chastisement chosen by Heaven to punish the whole world if we do not beforehand obtain the conversion of that poor nation.</em></p>
<p><em>Father, the devil is in the mood for engaging in a decisive battle against the Blessed Virgin. And the devil knows what it is that most offends God and which in a short space of time will gain for him the greatest number of souls.</em> <em>Thus, the devil does everything to overcome souls consecrated to God, because in this way, the devil will succeed in leaving the souls of the faithful abandoned by their leaders, thereby the more easily will he seize them.</em></p>
<p>According to Lucia, part of the third secret is also part the great chastisement that happens between 1957 and 1960.</p>
<p>Cardinal Ottaviani asked Lucia 1955 why not before 1960, and she said, “Because then it will seem clearer (<em>mais claro</em>).” In fact, she stated, “it cannot be made known before 1960.” When pressed to why it had to be in 1960, she and Bishop José Correia da Silva replied to Canon Barthas in 1946: “<em>Because the Blessed Virgin wishes it so</em>.”</p>
<p>We see wars and people dying in the first two secrets. In the third secret, we hear about another major chastisement which will happen between 1957 and 1960.</p>
<p>Lucia said the world (not the Church) was going to be punished severely. The world would understand the contents of the third secret when revealed in 1960 just as people would understand the second secret when revealed after the fact. (World War 2 and revealed by Lucia in 1941.)</p>
<p>Logically, the election of Roncalli couldn’t be this part of the secret because in 1960, virtually everyone believed him to be a true pope and rejoiced something Lucia said would not happen. There would be no rejoicing.</p>
<p>The secret couldn’t say we have a fake pope only to be revealed by a fake pope. Therefore, it couldn’t have referred to the pope as some type of imposter pope.</p>
<p>Another critical point is that Lucia said, “<em>In Portugal the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved</em>.”</p>
<p>If we draw an inference that this might mean apostasy in other places around the world, where would this be seen in 1960?</p>
<p>The question is what kind of terrible chastisement would befall on the whole world that could be seen by 1960 that would be as big as the first two secrets to verify the prophecy was true? Again, we’re talking about part of the third secret because that is what Lucia said.</p>
<p>China was the only country to suffer a major chastisement with the <strong>Great Leap Forward (1958–1962),</strong> which caused the Great Chinese Famine, resulting in an estimated 15 to 55 million deaths. This is huge for China, but not the world. Surely, the great chastisement Lucia is referring would be greater than China’s catastrophe.</p>
<p>Think of all the possibilities and what we find absolutely nothing!</p>
<p>If any other religion put something out like this, we Catholics would call it out for what it is, a false prophecy, because that’s simply what it is.</p>
<p>Bottom line, we have another false prophecy. However, the Church did not approve this prophecy as told in 1957 as worthy of belief. It was unknown when approved in 1930. Again, was the approval in 1930 provisional? Is Lucia not trustworthy? Does the whole Fatima event and the false prophecies go hand in hand? Absolutely!</p>
<p><strong>Third Serious Issue</strong></p>
<p><strong>Too many exceptions are needed.</strong></p>
<p>Fatima is nothing like Lourdes and St. Bernadette. The message at Lourdes was nothing new to Catholicism. It confirmed a recent dogma. The three secrets were for Bernadette herself. Its message was simple with a miraculous healing spring as a reward for having faith. It was a beautiful and wonderful event in every way. No real problems, no real confusions.</p>
<p>Fatima on the other hand has everything Lourdes doesn’t. Problems, confusions, demands or else, and major prophecies that don’t come as stated.</p>
<p>When the angel appeared in the beginning, he gave the children Communion. Jacinta and Francesco hadn’t even received their First Communion yet. When Francesco received from the Chalice, he asked Lucia what he had received because he was unaware of what it was.</p>
<p>There are several strange things about this occurrence. In the West, we don’t receive from the Chalice and preparation and knowledge of Communion is absolutely demanded for those of the age of reason. Infants don’t need to know because they are not able. However, when the Sacraments are given to those of the age of reason, it’s imperative to understand what’s being received except in cases of danger of death.</p>
<p>If the angel is truly from Heaven, why would he go against the norms of the Church on such an important thing as Holy Communion? How would or could you know he was truly from Heaven if the only way to test the spirit are with the norms of the Church?</p>
<p>In the West, we fast before Communion, but are we to expect the children had no breakfast? It’s possible, but it seems like one exception after another is needed to legitimize the event as coming from Heaven.</p>
<p>We are not told about the angel story in 1917 but years later in 1937 and 1941 by Lucia and her memoirs.</p>
<p>The bottom line is the radically strange way Holy Communion was given to the children under the circumstances, where the testing the spirit with Catholic belief and practice is impossible. However, the Church didn’t approve of this story of the Angel as it came from the memoirs of Lucia over twenty years after the fact. Again, is Lucia trustworthy and was the approval provisional?</p>
<p>Other problems with Fatima are covered in the Footnotes. However, these three suffice to show Fatima is not from Heaven.</p>
<p><strong>What about the Miracle of the Sun?</strong></p>
<p>The miracle of the sun was also seen many times at Medjugorja. I had friends who not only saw the miracle of the sun at Medjugorja, but their rosary beads turned to gold on each bead as they prayed it. They were strong believers in John Paul 2 and the Vatican 2 religion because of Medjugorja. Yet, these apparitions have blunt heresies even by Vatican 2 standards.</p>
<p>I have another friend who saw the miracle of the sun at Garabandal. The apparitions of Garabandal from 1961 to 1965 also have other spectacular miracles, yet its prophecies also failed miserably proving it to be a false apparition.</p>
<p>What I find interesting is that not all 70,000 people saw the “miracle” on that day as reported by apparitionists. Many reported seeing nothing unusual, which of course included the many skeptics, atheists, etc. the very ones that would need to see to believe. Everyone described the event quite differently, too.</p>
<p>The skeptical explanations for the “miracle” are also quite reasonable. In Pentecostal settings, we see how the power of suggestion make masses of people believe they’ve been “slain in the spirit.” I’ve seen it first-hand. “Speaking in tongues” is another example. We definitely see the power of suggestion at Fatima and many other places. Combine that with starring at the sun for a long period of time and then expecting to see something unusual. If a real weather condition happened on that day with all the other conditions, the event would certainly be magnified.</p>
<p>We read about this very thing in the book “God and the Sun of Fatima” written by the priest, physicist and philosopher of science, Father Stanley L Jaki, who believed in Fatima.</p>
<p>Fr. Jaki tells of the devout Catholic lawyer and Third Order Franciscan Domingo Pintos Coelho who was there in the Cova on Oct. 13, 1917. He published what he witnessed that day on Oct. 16<sup>th</sup> in the local Catholic newspaper titled “Ordem.” (Keep in mind that in 1917, permission to write and publish on the Church was required as seen in canon law.)</p>
<p>Jaki didn’t like what Coelho wrote and breaks down everything he wrote to make Coelho appear to look irresponsible and/or faithless. However, Jaki was a strong believer in the miracle and he wouldn’t let anything get in his way in spreading what he believed was a miracle, but the fact remains that there is another side to the story.</p>
<p>Coelho wrote (p. 53): The leading newspapers began to speak of this case with great frequency and it will therefore be good not to reach a wrong conclusion before considering some ideas that rightly present themselves in cases of this nature. It is clear that as Catholics we accept the full possibility of the miracle. God, since He made the laws which rule natural phenomena, can also alter or suspend them. Simply put, a miracle is an exception. And exceptions are not presumed. They require certain proof. The Catholic Church has constantly insisted on the matter of proofs before it would agree to establishing the miraculous character of any fact of series of facts.</p>
<p>He continued in the next few pages…</p>
<p>In reference to what happened on Saturday the thirteenth, we can give witness because we were there, not as a pilgrim, note that well, but as a curious spectator.</p>
<p>From eleven until one-thirty the rain was constant and driven by a strong wind; a frankly rough and disagreeable weather which the enormous crowd of many thousands of people endured with excellent humor, without shelter other than rain hats and the vehicles, since not even one building is to be found in the vicinity.</p>
<p>Thirty-seven and a half minutes after one o&#8217;clock—or noon by solar time—was the hour set for the vision with which it was hoped that the phenomena in the heavens would coincide.</p>
<p>At this moment it continued to rain.</p>
<p>Some moments later the rain slackened and at one forty-five it stopped altogether. The sun, until then concealed, showed itself among the clouds that moved fairly fast. Because their density was variable, the veil which they threw over the king of stars [sun] was diaphanous. Like the multitude, we then looked toward the sun with rapt attention, and through the clouds, we saw it under new aspects—new for us, mark it well… Now surrounded by reddish flames, now with a ring of yellow or bright violet, now seemingly enlivened by a very rapid rotating movement, now even apparently detaching itself from the sky, approaching the earth, and giving forth a strong heat…</p>
<p>Why deny it? These phenomena, which we had never before witnessed, impressed us greatly. Among the crowds, a collective psychology established itself. And generally speaking there passed over the vast majority of that crowd a tremendous wave of faith that was very moving.</p>
<p>But then Coelho continues to explain….</p>
<p>One doubt remained with us, however.</p>
<p>Was what we saw in the sun an exceptional thing? Or could it be reproduced in analogous circumstances?</p>
<p>Now it was precisely this analogy of circumstances that presented itself to us yesterday [Sunday]. We could see the sun half overcast with clouds as on Saturday. And sincerely, we saw on that day the same succession of colors, the same rotary movement, etc.</p>
<p>(p. 57)</p>
<p>Coelho concluded his article:</p>
<p>Eliminating, then, the only extraordinary fact, what remains? Right now, the statements of the three children and nothing else.</p>
<p>It is very little.</p>
<p>Will the children be found sincere? We have no reason to doubt that they will be; their humble state is a guarantee of this for us.</p>
<p>We ask pardon for the crabbed stories of the investigators of popular belief who have attributed mysterious profit motives to the shepherds, for not believing this story without proof. Do the strongminded [<em>espiritos fortes</em> or freethinkers] want us to believe without proof? Very well. But with the same right we could demand from those who see in all this but Jesuit trickeries the same proofs they demand from us, regardless of whether they find them inconvenient and therefore dispense with them.</p>
<p><strong>In sum, we returned from Fatima in the same state of mind in which we went there—in doubt.</strong></p>
<p>Was there a miracle, were there apparitions? It is possible but between possibility and reality there is an abyss.</p>
<p>We will therefore continue with an open mind, benevolent, if so desired, but nothing more.</p>
<p>And let us be permitted to advise those who by their position and intelligence can influence others not to go beyond this limit.</p>
<p>(pp. 59-60)</p>
<p>After this article was published on Oct. 16<sup>th</sup>, 1917, Coelho published another article the next day Oct. 17, again, talking about Fatima.</p>
<p>If miracles are rare today, it does not mean that they can no longer occur. For example, the lives of Don Bosco, the founder of the Salesians, and of the Curé d&#8217; Ars were full of miracles. The history of Lourdes is also a series of miracles verified with the greatest rigor. …</p>
<p><strong>St. Augustine says: &#8220;A miracle should never be proclaimed when a natural explanation is possible&#8221;. </strong></p>
<p>This rule has always been scrupulously observed by the Church, the teacher of truth.</p>
<p>Now what did we say about the case of Fatima? That <strong>we</strong>, the obscure author of these lines, <strong>had not observed any fact that would prompt us to consider as supernatural.</strong> But not only did we treat it from a personal and unauthorized point of view but in no way did we wish to disclaim the observations which others have made and which differ from ours.</p>
<p>We would want nothing more than to witness events to which no natural explanation can be fitted. <strong>Our disappointment was great, when on Sunday, as we said, we verified the vacuity of what on the day before had seemed to be miraculous</strong>; our disappointment was heightened since we were greatly impressed by the coincidence that the rain of three hours&#8217; duration had stopped almost exactly at the moment when the children prayed, and that the sun then appeared in the clouds.</p>
<p>Simply put, it is necessary in a matter of such weight not to yield to the principle <em>Quod vohumus facile credimus</em>.</p>
<p>We therefore conclude as we did yesterday: it is fitting to replace premature enthusiasm with the most prudent reserve. If in Fatima there is something of the supernatural our holding back will not impede the march of events upon which god in His infinite wisdom has decided.</p>
<p>On the other hand, a fiasco following hasty exaltation would not fail to be exploited by the enemies of the Church; they are always numerous, very active, and constantly on the watch for the propitious moment for the attack.</p>
<p>End of Coelho.</p>
<p>Coelho called the “Miracle of the Sun” vacuous and he got backlash immediately by other papers. I included this report to show there was another side, which many apparitionists don’t include in their stories. Jaki was an exception.</p>
<p>The bottom line, the “miracle” of the sun doesn’t prove a heavenly apparition. To one devout Catholic who witnessed the event didn’t even think it was miraculous and publicly tells us so in two articles in a Catholic magazine within a week of the “miracle”. The same so-called miracle of the sun is seen at all the modern apparition sites, which we know are false. Yet, it was this very “miracle” that has convinced most Catholics that Fatima is a true apparition from Heaven.</p>
<p><strong>Conclusion</strong></p>
<p>The prophecies definitely failed. Is that the fault of Fatima or Lucia? It’s hard to separate the two. However, we know that Garabandal was false precisely because of the false prophecies. Why are the false prophecies of Fatima overlooked?</p>
<p>People would rather believe in a hoax, a deception of the devil, or any lie if it makes them feel better. The pope, many bishops, and many theologians and canonists have bought into Fatima but that doesn’t mean it’s true. It doesn’t mean it’s probably true.</p>
<p>Lastly, the Church has declared that nothing in the Fatima apparition is heretical or dangerous morally or doctrinally. However, is it possible the Fatima apparitions are a demonic deception as a distraction to something else? For instance, what was really behind the Spanish Flu and Vaccines? See page 27 of the <a href="https://indepthnh.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/COVID-Report-from-Rep.-Weyler-3.pdf">COVID-Report-from-Rep.-Weyler-3.pdf</a></p>
<p>Both Jacinta and Francisco Marto were killed by the Spanish Flu. 100 million people died from this chastisement that’s never mentioned by Our Lady of Fatima. That’s as many or more people than both world wars put together! How could the Spanish Flu be overlooked? How is it still overlooked?</p>
<p>Another possible deception concerns what was then the future of the Church. Is Fatima a demonic plan hidden within the demonic plan? All kinds of ideas floating around Fatima predictions, consecration of Russia, the triumph of the Immaculate Heart, etc. all of which have nothing to do with the real Gospel and confuse the end times as Scripture tells us.</p>
<p>These all are the bad fruits of Fatima.</p>
<p>We know how Pope Leo XIII in the 1880’s tells us how in his vision Christ gives the Devil the time and power to deceive the Church. Was Fatima part of that plan in the grand scheme of things? After all, the whole reason we pray the St. Michael prayer after mass is because of Satan’s plan to destroy the Church. Pius XI shorten the prayer in 1934 and leaves out those critical points Pope Leo XIII put in the prayer. See the <a href="https://stevensperay.wordpress.com/2020/09/29/original-st-michael-prayer-of-pope-leo-xiii/">Original St. Michael Prayer of Pope Leo XIII</a>. Why was the crackdown on modernists put to an end after Pope Pius X?</p>
<p>I don’t know how you get around the false prophecies, but it looks to me to be another great deception of the devil to fool the masses to distract from something far greater.</p>
<p>Check out Footnote 3 to see more of the Fatima deception.</p>
<p>Footnotes:</p>
<h2>[1] <a href="https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13005a.htm">CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Private Revelations</a></h2>
<h2>[2] <a href="https://stevensperay.wordpress.com/2025/01/26/getting-real-with-our-lady-of-guadalupe-part-i/">Problems with the Story of Our Lady of Guadalupe – Part I</a></h2>
<p><a href="https://stevensperay.wordpress.com/2025/02/03/getting-real-with-our-lady-of-guadalupe-part-ii/">Problems with the Story of Our Lady of Guadalupe – Part II</a></p>
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<strong>By Timothy Fitzpatrick<br />
</strong><br />
Before I begin this brief critique of so-called truth teller Reverend Ted Pike, I want to redefine the definition of Zionism to something I feel is more accurate.</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Zionism</strong></span>: <em>the belief that God has set aside a tract of land in the Middle East for ethnic Jews for all eternity as long as they are obedient.<br />
</em><br />
Ted Pike, a well known &#8220;anti-Zionist&#8221; in the anti-Zionist community, is actually perpetuating the Zionist myth, although in a subtler manner, through his &#8220;Bible studies&#8221; at his website <a href="http://truthtellers.org">TruthTellers</a> and in his documentary videos, specifically <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zc1xTiH9T8"><em>The Other Israel</em></a> and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L4UvkoSqR8"><em>Zionism and Christianity: Unholy Alliance</em></a>. With titles like these, you would think there would be no hint of Zionism in his teachings on Bible prophecy, but, unfortunately, this is not the case. And with his campaign against the Babylonian Talmud and Jewish ADL-sponsored hate laws, his anti-Zionism appears even more legitimate.</p>
<p><strong>Pike a premillennialist Zionist</strong><br />
Give even a casual look at the roots of Christian Zionism and you will inevitably encounter a prophetical teaching known as premillennial dispensationalism. Many evangelical Christians and Protestants the world over adhere to this heretical school of thought, which is driving the end times delusion and the massacre by Israel of almost all of its neighbours, especially the Palestinians. What may surprise subscribers of Pike is that while he is not a dispensational believer—which, in this context, basically teaches that Jews are saved under their own Mosaic covenant (the law)—he does believe in premillennialism, which teaches that the Seventy Weeks Messianic prophecy in the Book of Daniel, the millennial reign of Christ, and the redemption of the Jews have not yet taken place. Some may argue that one can be anti-Zionist and premillennialist simultaneously, but, as Pike demonstrates in his confused prophetic world, it&#8217;s pretty much impossible. Pike claims a &#8220;remnant&#8221; of Jews will be saved in the future end times and will re-obtain the land, even though there was already a remnant of Jews saved in the time of Jesus, the apostles, and at the 70 AD destruction of Jerusalem. I guess he doesn&#8217;t think Jesus&#8217; redemptive work at His first coming was good enough to save all who would believe, so Jesus must come a second time redeem the Jews separately, at which point Jesus supposedly sets up an Earthly Zionist kingdom for 1,000 years. This is not taught in the Bible. It is a Jewish-centric heresy based on exclusivism—an exclusivism taught only in the unholy Babylonian Talmud and Kabbalah. To Bible scholars, this heresy is known as <em>postponement theory</em>—a sort of postponed Zionism.</p>
<p><strong>Pseudo anti-Zionism</strong><br />
A word about anti-Zionists in general. <a href="http://jewsagainstzionism.com/">Orthodox Jewish &#8220;anti-Zionists&#8221;</a> are only anti-Zionist in the sense that, if Jews are disobedient to God, they do not obtain the right to dwell in Israel. So, these anti-Zionist Jews are actually Zionists, according to my definition above. They <em>do</em> believe that Jews would have a right to dwell in Israel, just as long as they are obedient. In other words, they are only anti-Zionist while the Jews are disobedient. Pike basically echoes these same pseudo-anti-Zionist beliefs. So, Pike, too, is a Zionist and believes the Jews will return to the land when Jesus supposedly comes a second time to redeem only the special Jews and rapture everyone else.<br />
The redemptive work of Christ on the cross is not enough for Pike and his Jewish gods. No, Christ must come again, merely for the sake of the special Jews, who rejected and crucified Him.</p>
<p><strong>Universalism or Zionism?</strong><br />
The Bible, as well as the Early Church for 1,500-plus years, has taught that Old Testament Zionism was a temporal means to an end and, in and of itself, was never the intention of God from the beginning. It was to be a mere model of the true Zion, which was to be the entire world in obedience to God and the entire Earth as the land for believers in Christ Jesus. This is where we get the word &#8220;Catholic.&#8221; It means universalism, not exclusivism as the Zionists preach. This universalism, not to be confused with the secular definition of the term, has been taught by the Early Church onwards through the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic Churches. It wasn&#8217;t until Illuminist Jews and Freemasons wised up and distorted Bible prophecy that we were propagandized with this premillennial Zionist teaching. That and a twisting of Daniels 70-weeks prophecy has confused the good majority of American Christians and resulted in their unwavering support of Israel and Jews. It has also robbed them of enjoying the blessings from living under the millennial reign of our Lord Jesus Christ, who ascended to His throne almost 2,000 years ago. Premillennialists like Pike would have you believe that Jesus hasn&#8217;t ascended to His Throne yet. Pike can only conclude that Jesus is waiting in limbo somehwere.</p>
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<strong>Pike&#8217;s hyper Preterist strawman</strong><br />
Pike attempts to justify his false prophecy by putting all alternative views to premillennialism into the tiny box of hyper, or full, preterism. Full preterism is a heretical prophetical view that teaches that absolutely all Bible prophecy has been fulfilled. Without getting too technical, the Early Church&#8217;s prophetical teaching has always been more of a partial-preterist or historical view, which basically means that the majority of Bible prophecy has been fulfilled, especially the crucial Seventy Weeks Prophecy. Partial preterism and historicism are very different from hyper preterism, but that doesn&#8217;t matter to Pike; he is setting up a strawman. It also allows Pike to endorse the Judeo-Masonic inspired Seventy Week gap theory. Pike and his evangelical Zionist cohorts, including John Hagee, twist the Book of Daniel so that the final 70th week is separated (for no Biblical or logical reason) from the preceding 69 weeks, and tosses into the future so that Jews can be elevated again to godhood. I shall soon post a comprehensive article on the 70 Weeks deception and how it is based in a Rabbinical command to deceive Christians.</p>
<p><strong>Ted Pike&#8217;s rabbinical connection</strong><br />
In 2006, author Michael Hoffman alerted his readers to <a href="http://www.revisionisthistory.org/pike_lapin.html">Ted Pike&#8217;s connection with Orthodox Jewish rabbi Daniel Lapin</a>. Hoffman points out Pike&#8217;s compromise in supporting Lapin merely because he is a perceived cultural conservative and the false belief that it&#8217;s only leftist or secular Jews that are out to get us. He illustrates how this Jewish dualism plays both liberals and conservatives alike in a sort Hegelian dialectic. Hoffman writes,</p>
<blockquote><p>Orthodox Judaics have positioned themselves on both sides of the issue. Orthodox Judaic Foxman represents the Leftist ideal of secularism, while Orthodox Judaic Lapin is seen to attack Foxman in public, while offering support for the Right. To penetrate and overthrow this dialectic, we must anticipate the ultimate synthesis toward which this rabbinic chess game is oriented.</p></blockquote>
<p>Part of Pike&#8217;s response to Hoffman reads,</p>
<blockquote><p>One of the most powerful tools for awakening the church and nation was provided by Rabbi Daniel Lapin of &#8216;Toward Tradition,&#8217; a politically conservative, orthodox Jewish organization in Seattle&#8230;Actually, Rabbi Lapin&#8217;s persistent admonitions to American Jews to deeply appreciate America and its Christian culture fulfill God&#8217;s command to exiled Jews to seek the peace and welfare of the nations in which they dwell (Jer. 29:4).</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://i0.wp.com/fitzinfo.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/hopeofisrael.jpg?ssl=1"><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignright size-full wp-image-6127" src="https://i0.wp.com/fitzinfo.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/hopeofisrael.jpg?resize=170%2C218&#038;ssl=1" alt="" width="170" height="218" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/fitzinfo.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/hopeofisrael.jpg?w=170&amp;ssl=1 170w, https://i0.wp.com/fitzinfo.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/hopeofisrael.jpg?resize=140%2C180&amp;ssl=1 140w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 170px) 100vw, 170px" /></a>Pike is insinuating the heresy that a remnant shall be saved in the future and bring all Jews back into Israel while endorsing an Orthodox Jewish Rabbi, who is under the curse of the Babylonian Talmud and Kabbalah. Pike has been duped. The idea that a remnant of Jews will be saved, as described in the Book of Romans, in the future, is another postponed Zionism heresy. James B. Jordan wrote a <a href="http://www.preteristarchive.com/Modern/1991_jordan_future-israel.html">brilliant piece</a> shattering this myth, The late author Phillip Mauro wrote extensively on the lies of postponement theory, especially in <em><a href="http://www.preteristarchive.com/Books/pdf/1922_mauro_hope-of-israel.pdf">The Hope of Israel</a></em>.</p>
<p><strong>A call to repentance</strong><br />
This post is not meant as a personal attack on Ted Pike. He appears to be sincere in his convictions, as heretical and confusing as they are. I hope this post will alert subscribers of Pike as well as Pike himself to the anti-Christ nature of his prophetical views.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[By Timothy Fitzpatrick A former high-ranking Illuminati member claims American evangelist Chuck Smith’s Calvary Chapel and the Jesus freak movement are funded by the Illuminati. The late John Todd of the Collins Illuminati bloodline revealed, [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>By Timothy Fitzpatrick</strong><br />
A former high-ranking Illuminati member claims American evangelist Chuck Smith’s Calvary Chapel and the Jesus freak movement are funded by the Illuminati.<br />
<figure id="attachment_193" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-193" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://fitzinfo.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/calvary-chapel-oto.jpg"><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-medium wp-image-193" title="Calvary Chapel OTO" alt="" src="http://fitzinfo.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/calvary-chapel-oto.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C188" width="300" height="188" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-193" class="wp-caption-text">Chuck Smith&#8217;s Calvary Chapel logo stylized after the downward dove in the logo for the Illuminati&#8217;s Ordo Templi Orientis. Credit: Donna Martin (fanaticforjesus.blogspot.ca)</figcaption></figure><br />
The late John Todd of the Collins Illuminati bloodline revealed, during his tour of some American churches in the ‘70s and ‘80s, that part of his job as a witch/CIA MK Ultra agent in the Illuminati power structure was to deliver money to leaders of the Charismatic movement as a payoff for their allegiance to the New World Order.<br />
“The charismatic movement, to the outside people, is the movement that declares the speaking of tongues,” Todd explained to his audience in one of several audio recordings.</p>
<blockquote><p> “The charismatic movement, in reality, was one of three steps declared back in 1964 to do two things: while the main function was to destroy the fundamental church of any type…the Masons was one, and the charismatic church was another…and the political manoeuvres was the third….”</p></blockquote>
<p>Todd went on to name Smith.</p>
<blockquote><p> “I was on the Council of Thirteen and had to pay too many millions of dollars to that organization to accept that it be of God and its leaders—since I know most of its leaders by first-name basis. They used the charismatic movement to establish Jesus rock. I had to deliver a $4-million cheque that was the second $4-million cheque that Chuck Smith—that created Calvary Chapel and Maranantha Productions—received from the Illuminati. And he knew it was Illuminati money…I saw $35 million in two years go into the charismatic movement to build the four biggest churches in the United States that lead it, plus the Full Gospel Businessmen.”<a title="" href="#_edn1">[i]</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Chuck Missler, who now runs the Christian Zionist organization Koinonia House, is still a staff pastor with Calvary Chapel, and is considered by some to be a protégé of Chuck Smith. The two are closely associated to say the least.<br />
<figure id="attachment_194" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-194" style="width: 600px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://fitzinfo.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/koinonia-house-masonic.jpg"><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-194" title="Koinonia House Masonic" alt="" src="http://fitzinfo.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/koinonia-house-masonic.jpg?resize=600%2C485" width="600" height="485" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-194" class="wp-caption-text">Chuck Missler&#8217;s ministry logo for Koinonia House bears strong resemblance to Masonic altar. As well, the flame resembles the Kabbalah&#8217;s eternal flame concept or perhaps the Hebrew letter Yod, which is depicted to the right inside the pyramid of this Masonic Scottish Rite symbol.</figcaption></figure><br />
<strong>Who is this sincere sounding &#8220;evangelist&#8221;?</strong><br />
Charles W. Missler is a respected evangelist in the United States of America and an outspoken supporter of the state of Israel. Missler, through his speaking engagements and for-sale audio and video products, comes off as a sincere and intelligent evangelist. What sets him apart from most televangelists is his speech, which is totally different from the cookie-cutter dialectic—intonation and inflection—of typical televangelists, and his scientific vernacular, making himself more credible and more believeable to his naïve Christian audience. (It has been my experience that North American evangelicals are highly naïve people, but perhaps the Illuminati planned it that way.) In an attempt to further captivate the minds of his unsuspecting audiences, Missler will even expound upon wild kabbalistic &#8220;scientific&#8221; theories, like strings and the holographic universe (<a title="The arcane doctrine of macrocosm/microcosm" href="http://watch.pair.com/missler.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Missler&#8217;s arcane doctrine of macrocosm/microcosm</a>). This is all a ruse to take the attention away from his unBiblical teachings and leave his audience overwhelmed yet highly impressed.The 1996 Wordsworth <em>Dictionary of the Occult</em> describes the importance of a holographic universe to the occultist as follows:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;for the occultist, the universe is like a hologram: a photograph produced by a laser beam, which appears to be a meaningless pattern until it is suitably illuminated, and is seen to be a three-dimensional image. Furthermore, if a hologram is produced, then torn into tiny pieces, each of these pieces will still provide an image of the whole hologram. The correspondences between the hermetic axiom—the analogy between microcosm (man) and macrocosm (universe)—and the hologram are quite evident&#8230;This idea occurs in occultism, perfected: matter and spirit are two sides of the same coin, but we are unaware of this as long as the bad dream (Jung&#8217;s synchronism). Initiation on the one hand, or divination on the other, enable us to recover this lost unity. Matter is, in effect, the universe seen in terms of a hologram; any support can be a substitute for mythology; success in divination comes from the activation of an &#8220;archaic residue&#8221; in the psyche. (p. 230)</p></blockquote>
<p>Yet, how many of Missler&#8217;s followers know the occult roots of his pseudo-scientific teachings?<br />
<strong>Missler’s corporate profile </strong><br />
Missler has served in various high-profile positions in Christian academia and in the corporate world, mainly in technology, through companies like <em>Phoenix Group International</em> (Illuminati name), <em>Rockwell International</em>,<em> SWANSAT</em>, and the <em>Western Digital Corp</em>. <em>SWANSAT</em>, which is tied to the International Monetary Fund and World Bank, appears to be part of the Illuminati’s technocracy wing, which is currently in high gear. SWANSAT is headed by Zionist William Welty, who is apparently using <em>SWANSAT</em>, among other things, in the Middle East to help rebuild the Jewish Solomonic Temple and to hasten the Christian Zionist version of Armageddon. (Welty has also worked for the United Nations’ Global Alliance for ICT Policy and Development.)</p>
<blockquote><p>“Recruited by the <em>Ford Motor Company</em> into a Senior Management position, Chuck established the first international industrial computer network in 1966. Leaving <em>Ford</em> to start his own company, he founded a computer networking organization later acquired by <em>Automatic Data Processing</em> (NYSE) to become its Network Services Division. He subsequently served as a consultant to the Board of Directors of <em>Rockwell International</em> for corporate acquisitions (which included Collins Radio, American Data Systems, and others); and has also participated in over 100 business ventures as a principal, strategic advisor, or turnaround specialist,” SWANSAT describes Missler.<a title="" href="#_edn2">[ii]</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Missler and Welty may also be using profits from the sale of their new Zionist Bible version, the <em>International Standard Version</em>, to fund <em>SWANSAT</em>. Are Missler’s book and video sales also funding his military and intelligence endeavours? If this is the case than not only is the Illuminati funding Missler, but Missler is funding the Illuminati!<br />
<em>SWANSAT</em>, which is bringing Big Brother technology (telecommunications, spying, and biometrics) to the Middle East and the rest of the world, is also pushing for a gold-backed currency, the African Union Auric™ Currency through the <em>Global Settlement Foundation</em>. So, not only is Missler’s Zionism hastening their concept of Armegeddon, Missler and his cohorts are laying the foundation for the <em>Mark of the Beast </em>system.<br />
The <em>Phoenix Group International/Netcom</em><br />
Through the Phoenix Group, Missler failed to send millions of computers to Soviet schools and businesses in the 1980s through an informal contract.<br />
Missler explains his failed Phoenix Group—obviously named after the New Age Phoenix, which rises from the ashes—as follows.</p>
<blockquote><p>“Our venture development firm, The Phoenix Group International, specializing in acquiring and repairing troubled technology assets, was named after the bird of the fable which rose from its ashes. (We should have done more homework: the Phoenix legend is about a mythical bird that burned every 500 years.)”</p></blockquote>
<p>We know that the Illuminati make or break companies, even breaking their own if necessary. And it’s common for Illuminati assets, like Chuck Missler appears to be, to have a list of failed ventures under their name. Saudi arms dealer and Mossad asset Adnan Khashoggi is one example. The Phoenix Group ordeal eventually led to Missler declaring personal bankruptcy.<br />
In addition to Missler’s advocacy of the Illuminati-created premillennial dispensational doctrine (from Illuminist Cyrus I. Scofield), Missler also has various troubling associations that line up with what Todd says about Illuminati-funded evangelicals like Smith.<br />
<strong>The Council For National Policy</strong><br />
Founded in 1981 by suspected Mason and Christian Zionist Tim Layhae<a title="" href="#_edn3">[iii]</a>, The Council For National Policy is a neocon version of the Illuminist Council on Foreign Relations. And like the CFR, the CNP is packed with Freemasons and Zionists and meets secretly to discuss and set policy. Other prominent Christian Zionists on the council include: Stanley Monteith, Chuck Missler, Joseph Farah (WorldNetDaily.com) James Dobson (Focus on the Family), the late Jerry Falwell, John Ankerberg, and Pat Robertson.<br />
What’s interesting about Missler and his partners in treachery are that almost all of them pretend to oppose the New World Order. Take for example, Monteith’s book Brotherhood of Darkness, Missler’s writings on the NWO and the Kabbalah (very tame exposes) or Pat Robertson’s <em>The New World Order</em>. The few times these guys pretend to expose the New World Order, it’s merely to provide an alibi. To strengthen this alibi, Missler accuses his detractors of being “New World Order conspirators.”<a title="" href="#_edn4">[iv]</a><br />
<figure id="attachment_196" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-196" style="width: 300px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://fitzinfo.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/avi-lipkin-chuck-missler.jpg"><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-196" title="avi-lipkin-chuck-missler" alt="" src="http://fitzinfo.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/avi-lipkin-chuck-missler.jpg?resize=300%2C225" width="300" height="225" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-196" class="wp-caption-text">Former IDF soldier and Likudnik Avi Lipkin (left) with Chuck Missler.</figcaption></figure><br />
<strong>Intelligence – Mossad/CIA</strong><br />
Missler’s curriculum vitae at SWANSAT reads:</p>
<blockquote><p>“His civilian career began as a systems engineer at TRW, followed by a Senior Analyst position in a &#8220;think tank&#8221; serving both the intelligence community and the Department of Defense.”</p></blockquote>
<p>With Chuck’s multiple membership in organizations tied with intelligence and the military industrial complex, it is not a far reach to suspect that Missler might be tied to the Israeli terrorist organization <em>Mossad</em>. With his overt allegiance to Zionism, his trips to Israel every year, and his involvement with SWANSAT and other shady groups, he is wide open to either blackmail or recruitment into Mossad as some kind of an asset.<br />
“Previous tours included briefings and Q &amp; A with members of the IDF, Mossad, and/or Shin Bet, the Palestinian Authority Watch, as well as members of the Knesset,” reads Missler’s website about Koinonia’s Israel Tours, where Chuck and his team brainwash participants with the Illuminati’s Zionist doctrines.<a title="" href="#_edn5">[v]</a><br />
Then there is Missler’s friend Dennis Avi Lipkin (aka Victor Mordechai), a former Israeli Defence Force soldier and employee for Israel&#8217;s Likud party, whom Missler uses to instill fear and hatred of Islam through his audio and video lectures.<a title="" href="#_edn6">[vi]</a> <a title="Missler and Lipkin joke" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYi66rDzO08" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Missler and Lipkin joke</a> that even if Lipkin were a Mossad agent, he would never be allowed to admit it. However, Lipkin does <a title="admits to delivering a speech" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XIDV-w-VvY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">admit to delivering a speech</a> at the Illuminati&#8217;s Council on Foreign Relations. On top of all that, <a title="Lipkin had prior knowledge" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqEfH94J0m8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Lipkin had prior knowledge</a> of the 9/11 &#8220;terrorist&#8221; attacks, even naming Bin Laden and Hussein.<br />
Perhaps Lipkin is Missler’s handler. According to Lipkin, Missler has the &#8220;<a title="kosher seal of approval" href="http://youtu.be/i0rsPFI59Ps?t=10m49s" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">kosher seal of approval</a>.&#8221;<br />
Lipkin is not a Christian but <a title="pretends to be one" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qTaFb0CSEE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">pretends to be one</a>. But like all Christian Zionists, it doesn’t matter to Missler. He peddles Lipkin as a brother in Christ and even prays &#8220;with&#8221; Lipkin.<br />
In the following video clip, Missler talks about being briefed by the CIA and other groups:<br />
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pChHoiaA9c&amp;w=420&amp;h=315]<br />
<figure id="attachment_195" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-195" style="width: 120px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://fitzinfo.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/triglyph.jpg"><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-195 " title="triglyph" alt="" src="http://fitzinfo.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/triglyph.jpg?resize=120%2C160" width="120" height="160" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-195" class="wp-caption-text">Koinonia House sports the logo of the Illuminati&#8217;s Hebrew Roots movement.</figcaption></figure><br />
<strong>Missler’s Zionism</strong><br />
Zionism is a major hallmark of an Illuminati agent, but Missler makes not attempts to hide his. He is a premillennial dispensationalist who believes that Jews are God’s chosen people. It is not clear whether Missler is also a dual-covenant heretic like John Hagee, but it wouldn’t be surprising to see Missler advocating a separate form of salvation for the Jewish people. Missler’s Bible lectures are bastardized with Messianic Jewish terminology and concepts (Hebrew Roots movement) as well as the Illuminati’s dispensational doctrine, brought into the church through the Freemason Cyrus Ingerson Scofield—a convicted criminal and academic fraud.<a title="" href="#_edn7">[vii]</a> Without the Scofield Reference Bible—a creation by the Illuminati to align the Church with their plans for propping up the state of Israel and the Jewish people for a massive “end times” deception—Christian Zionism would likely not exist today, at least not in North America. American evangelicals don’t realize that Chuck Missler gets his prophetic doctrines from man-made footnotes and not the Bible itself?  (For more on the Zionist/Kabbalist subversion of the evangelical movement, see <a title="here" href="http://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/are-american-evangelical-organizations-illuminati-fronts/">here</a>.)</p>
<blockquote><p>“The influence of The Scofield Reference Bible resulted from the spread of a revised edition, which Scofield made in 1917,” writes Joseph M. Canfield in <em>The Incredible Scofield and His Book </em>(pg. 217).</p></blockquote>
<p>And how did the revised edition become so widespread? Through the Illuminati’s Jewish controlled press and publishing houses, even the theological publishing houses. Then American Jewish Committee chairman Samuel Untermeyer took Scofield under his wing and made sure he was successful.</p>
<blockquote><p>“Inadequate or no, Scofield’s work received highest praise from those who held to its system. And that praise meant that many in the pew failed to distinguish between the words of Scofield and those of the Holy Spirit.”</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Y2K, Bible codes,  and plagiarism</strong><br />
Whether it’s predicting catastrophe on Y2K (fearmongering commonly used by Illuminati shills) or advocating and promoting the Kabbalistic Bible codes (Illuminati numerology), Missler has done it all as an Illuminati agent. But it doesn’t end there. Missler also admitted to plagiarism in the book <em>The Magog Factor</em>, which he and Christian Zionist fanatic Hal Lindsey supposedly authored. In this book, Missler apparently plagiarized 70 per cent of the material from Edwin Yamauchi&#8217;s 1982 book <em>Foes from the Northern Frontier: Invading Hordes from the Russian Steppes.</em><a title="" href="#_edn8">[viii]</a><br />
<figure id="attachment_199" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-199" style="width: 454px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://fitzinfo.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/toddspellbound.jpg"><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-199" title="toddspellbound" alt="" src="http://fitzinfo.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/toddspellbound.jpg?resize=454%2C667" width="454" height="667" /></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-199" class="wp-caption-text">A Chick Publication depicting the late ex-Illuminatus John Todd.</figcaption></figure><br />
<strong>Back to John Todd</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The purpose of it (Illuminati funding Christian organizations like Calvary Chapel) was to build Maranatha Industries and Productions, which started Jesus rock back when the Christian church was preaching against rock music, not knowing why, but preaching against it just the same and throwing it out of the churches. That scared the Illuminati and the occult world to death. At that time, we almost thought that their end had come because if that really happened within the Christian church, the Christian church would have the biggest mass revival of souls in the United States that this world has ever seen. That&#8217;s the purpose of rock music, to make sure that that never takes place.”</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Is John Todd a reliable source?</strong><br />
According to Illuminati expert Fritz Springmeier, yes!</p>
<blockquote><p>‘There are friends of mine who feel very convinced this ex-Illuminatus is the real thing, and that he was really part of the Illuminati. Then, there are some who feel he is not for real. There has been an intense program of discrediting this man which was orchestrated by the Illuminati and their plans within the Christian community. I have listened to both sides of the issue, and then listened to the man himself, and I am convinced he is for real. I believe he really was part of the Illuminati.<br />
I have listened to ours of accusations that were leveled against this ex-Illuminatus even before he was framed, and most if not all amount to nothing. When I have asked people what their objections were to this man, they have said they are convinced he was a Satanist, but that they doubt his Illuminati credentials. But the man is part of one of the most powerful bloodlines in the world, the Collins family. Whether he got high in the Illuminati can be debated, but if he were in Satanism, which many acknowledge, he would have—almost certainly—been taken into an Illuminati coven.”<a title="" href="#_edn9">[ix]</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Springmeier explains why some sincere people doubt the veracity of Todd’s claims.</p>
<blockquote><p>“In the 1978-79 time period, a 30-year-old man, John Wayne Todd, claiming to be an ex-Illuminati hierarchy member, was speaking in Baptist and Pentecostal churches all across the United States. He became somewhat of a minor celebrity among people who have wanted to learn about the Illuminati. Unfortunately, at that point in time, absolutely no one understood the Illuminati and their mind-control. No one was able to understand what John Todd was all about. No one had exposed the modern Illuminati until this author came out with (to date) six books on the Illuminati. This book on the bloodlines, has three sequel books on the Illuminati’s mind control. It is imperative that people understand the nature of this total mind-control and multiple personalities.<br />
This author has spoken with John Todd on a number of occasions, and he was without doubt a multiple personality that was programmed by the Illuminati. When he went out on speaking engagements, his talks were full of numerous contradictory statements. That is the nature of a multiple personality.<br />
This author was never in the Illuminati, but as an outsider, I have studied the Illuminati for years, and I know how hard it was to research them. When I have listened to Johnnie Todd’s tapes of his speeches, he says too many things that hit the mark that he couldn’t have learned if he did not have some acquaintance with the subject. It is clear to me that he didn’t gain his knowledge of the Illuminati by reading a few book, which his detractors accuse him of doing.<br />
John Todd should have been given therapy for his MPD and mind control; unfortunately, the Christian churches put him out on speaking circuits for several years. Todd was totally unreliable, and very contradictory in what he said and did. His multiple personality disorder clearly showed itself, as one hour, he’d have a charming personality holding his body, and the next hour he’d have a totally obnoxious personality holding his body. Because no one understood Illuminati mind control, which is done to essentially all their members, the Christian audiences and ministers who supported Todd eventually turned against him. John Todd himself did not understand the mind control he was under, nor did he ever do any therapy work with his Multiple Personality Disorder….”<a title="" href="#_edn10">[x]</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Jack Chick of <em>Chick Publications</em>, was one of a few prominent Christian leaders to stand by Todd’s testimony.</p>
<blockquote><p>“I back John up 100% with all his faults. I know this brother is doing his best to advance the kingdom of God. We must keep one fact in mind. John is not a minister, but a Christian layman sharing what he knows about a very explosive subject. We should be eager to know about what is going on in the enemy&#8217;s camp, and to my knowledge, John Todd is the only one qualified to give us that information. I encourage you to stand with him in the face of this onslaught.”<a title="" href="#_edn11">[xi]</a></p></blockquote>
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<a title="" href="#_ednref1">[i]</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX4uZGHa5ww" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">John Todd on the purpose of the charismatic movement and rock music</a>
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<a title="" href="#_ednref2">[ii]</a> <a href="http://swansat.com/about_us_cmissler.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>SWANSAT</em> (Super Wide Area Network)</a>
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<a title="" href="#_ednref3">[iii]</a> <a href="http://watch.pair.com/lahaye.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>Tim LaHaye&#8217;s Masonic Connections</em></a>
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<a title="" href="#_ednref4">[iv]</a> <em><a href="http://calvarychapel.pbworks.com/w/page/13146662/missler-nwo" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Missler Labels His &#8220;Attackers&#8221; as &#8220;New World Order Conspirators&#8221;</a> </em>
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<a title="" href="#_ednref5">[v]</a> <a title="Koinonia House Israel Tours" href="http://khouse.org/pages/Israel_Tours/Israel-Tours/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Israel Tours</a>
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<a title="" href="#_ednref6">[vi]</a> <a href="http://www.vicmord.com/">Avi Lipkin</a>; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tf4UbGPlEc"><em>Chuck Missler &#8211; Avi Lipkin &#8211; Sleeping In America &#8211; Session 1 &#8211; Deceptions of Islam Part 1</em></a>
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<a title="" href="#_ednref7">[vii]</a> <em>The Incredible Scofield and His Book</em>, Joseph M. Canfield, 1988
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<a title="" href="#_ednref8">[viii]</a> <a href="http://calvarychapel.pbworks.com/w/page/13146663/missler-plagiarism"><em>Evidence of Plagiarism of Chuck Missler &#8211; </em>Christopher A. McHorney</a>
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<a title="" href="#_ednref9">[ix]</a> <em>Bloodlines of the Illuminati</em>, Fritz Springmeier, pg. 78, 1995
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<a title="" href="#_ednref10">[x]</a>  <em>Bloodlines of the Illuminati</em>, Fritz Springmeier, pg. 75-76, 1995
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<a title="" href="#_ednref11">[xi]</a> <a href="http://www.kt70.com/~jamesjpn/articles/chick_testimony.html"><em>Chick Publications, </em>June 16, 1978</a><br />
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<a title="Alex Jones promotes Zionist heretics Jeffrey and Missler" href="http://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2012/03/16/alex-jones-promotes-zionist-heretics-jeffrey-and-missler/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Alex Jones promotes Zionist heretics Jeffrey and Missler</a>
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