Hitler & the Kabbalistic, Talmudic creation of WW2.
Quote from joshf731 on March 21, 2023, 15:52Quote from joshf731 on December 12, 2022, 10:17The Swastika closely resembles the shape of the Hebrew letter Aleph & can be viewed as a cryptic form of it. This idea is supported as well by the fact the Communist Sickle is a cryptic form of the letter Aleph.
https://fitzinfo.net/2021/09/08/soviet-hammer-and-sickle-a-veil-for-hebrew-letter-aleph/
“As David Luhrssen tells the tale in his absorbing 2012 book, Hammer of the Gods: The Thule Society and the Birth of Nazism, Hitler learned from Krohn that the leftward-facing swastika signified universal order and redemption from the cycle of rebirth in Buddhist usage. Krohn also cautioned him that the opposite movement, the rightward turn, spelled annihilation. The future Führer unhesitatingly ignored Krohn’s caveat and reversed the direction of his swastika. He also straightened the curved legs of the Thule symbol and set the symbol at a 45-degree angle.”
12th paragraph https://scroll.in/article/769058/stop-the-outrage-india-doesnt-have-a-monopoly-on-the-symbol-used-to-protest-modis-uk-visit
“Although it is now the most common and universally recognized sign of Judaism and Jewish identity, both within and outside of the Jewish community, it has only achieved this status in the last two hundred years.
The earliest known Jewish use of the hexagram was as a seal in ancient Israel (6th century B.C.E.) and then eight centuries later in a synagogue frieze in Capernaum. But these early hexagrams may have been only ornamental designs; ironically, a swastika, another popular ancient motif, appears alongside the hexagram on the Capernaum synagogue wall.
The hexagram was also widely regarded as a messianic symbol, because of its legendary connection with David, ancestor of the Messiah. On Sabbath eve, German Jews would light a star-shaped brass oil lamp called a Judenstern (Jewish star), emblematic of the idea that Shabbat was a foretaste of the Messianic Age.”
Paragraphs 1,3 & 6 https://www.menorah.org/starofdavid.html
Rabbi Harry Woton:
“Even the Swastika was stolen by the nazis from the Jews. Think of it, the holy swastika was stolen from the Jews? How poor is the mentality of the nazis that for their holy symbol they had to go to the hated Jews and steal from them the swastika!”
Section 49, Paragraph 2 https://mailstar.net/waton-program.html
Manly P Hall, a masonic scholar (His book above): “Dialectics also stimulate the subtler phases of rationality by causing them to rise in defense of principle or premise. Through dialectics, the mind is rendered flexible and sufficient for any and every contingency.”
Jewish swastika
"Description - English: A mandala-like swastika, composed of Hebrew letters and surrounded by a circle and a mystical hymn in Aramaic. Appears in the Kabbalistic work "Parashat Eliezer" by Rabbi Eliezer ben Isaac Fischel of Strizhov, a commentary on the ancient eschatological book "Karnayim", ascribed to Rabbi Aharon of Kardina. The shape of the symbol and the contents of the hymn show strong solar symbolism."
Date: 18th century, possibly much earlier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jewish_swastika.jpg
Jewish invented enemy of Nazis -
Hitler’s Eagle Nest
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kehlsteinhaus
Was built to fulfill Obadiah 1:4. The chapter deals with the destruction of Edom because of their pride in the wrong they did to Jacob: the salvation and victory of Israel.
“Though thou exalted as an EAGLE & set thy NEST among the stars: I bring thee down, says the Lord”
See: Obadiah 1:4 & 10 http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=36&ch=1&l=4#x
https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Jerusalem_Against_Rome/jB-RRVgcsGgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=talmud+germania&pg=PA261&printsec=frontcover
“The purposes of the occupation of Germany by which the Control Council shall be guided are:
(1)17
The complete disarmament and demilitarization of Germany and the elimination or control of all German industry that could be used for military production. To these ends…”https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1945Berlinv02/d1383#fn:1.5.4.24.28.16.8.10.18.56.12.2.2.2
WW2 -Nazi Aleph vs. Communist Aleph (Nazi swastika another sign telling what was really happening?):
"The swastika came to the Jews via the ancient Semitic tribes, of which they were an organic part, and represents the letter Aleph."
https://www.nli.org.il/en/newspapers/cgs/1940/10/17/01/article/21/?e=-------en-20--1--img-txIN%7ctxTI--------------1
The Synagogue at Capernaum. Built between the 2nd and 4th century AD.
https://fa.proswastika.org/news.php?extend.228.9
More synagogues that have it
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-09-24-tr-48-story.html
Quote from joshf731 on December 12, 2022, 10:17The Swastika closely resembles the shape of the Hebrew letter Aleph & can be viewed as a cryptic form of it. This idea is supported as well by the fact the Communist Sickle is a cryptic form of the letter Aleph.
https://fitzinfo.net/2021/09/08/soviet-hammer-and-sickle-a-veil-for-hebrew-letter-aleph/
“As David Luhrssen tells the tale in his absorbing 2012 book, Hammer of the Gods: The Thule Society and the Birth of Nazism, Hitler learned from Krohn that the leftward-facing swastika signified universal order and redemption from the cycle of rebirth in Buddhist usage. Krohn also cautioned him that the opposite movement, the rightward turn, spelled annihilation. The future Führer unhesitatingly ignored Krohn’s caveat and reversed the direction of his swastika. He also straightened the curved legs of the Thule symbol and set the symbol at a 45-degree angle.”
12th paragraph https://scroll.in/article/769058/stop-the-outrage-india-doesnt-have-a-monopoly-on-the-symbol-used-to-protest-modis-uk-visit
“Although it is now the most common and universally recognized sign of Judaism and Jewish identity, both within and outside of the Jewish community, it has only achieved this status in the last two hundred years.
The earliest known Jewish use of the hexagram was as a seal in ancient Israel (6th century B.C.E.) and then eight centuries later in a synagogue frieze in Capernaum. But these early hexagrams may have been only ornamental designs; ironically, a swastika, another popular ancient motif, appears alongside the hexagram on the Capernaum synagogue wall.
The hexagram was also widely regarded as a messianic symbol, because of its legendary connection with David, ancestor of the Messiah. On Sabbath eve, German Jews would light a star-shaped brass oil lamp called a Judenstern (Jewish star), emblematic of the idea that Shabbat was a foretaste of the Messianic Age.”
Paragraphs 1,3 & 6 https://www.menorah.org/starofdavid.html
Rabbi Harry Woton:
“Even the Swastika was stolen by the nazis from the Jews. Think of it, the holy swastika was stolen from the Jews? How poor is the mentality of the nazis that for their holy symbol they had to go to the hated Jews and steal from them the swastika!”
Section 49, Paragraph 2 https://mailstar.net/waton-program.html
Manly P Hall, a masonic scholar (His book above): “Dialectics also stimulate the subtler phases of rationality by causing them to rise in defense of principle or premise. Through dialectics, the mind is rendered flexible and sufficient for any and every contingency.”
Jewish swastika
"Description - English: A mandala-like swastika, composed of Hebrew letters and surrounded by a circle and a mystical hymn in Aramaic. Appears in the Kabbalistic work "Parashat Eliezer" by Rabbi Eliezer ben Isaac Fischel of Strizhov, a commentary on the ancient eschatological book "Karnayim", ascribed to Rabbi Aharon of Kardina. The shape of the symbol and the contents of the hymn show strong solar symbolism."
Date: 18th century, possibly much earlier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jewish_swastika.jpg
Jewish invented enemy of Nazis -
Hitler’s Eagle Nest
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kehlsteinhaus
Was built to fulfill Obadiah 1:4. The chapter deals with the destruction of Edom because of their pride in the wrong they did to Jacob: the salvation and victory of Israel.
“Though thou exalted as an EAGLE & set thy NEST among the stars: I bring thee down, says the Lord”
See: Obadiah 1:4 & 10 http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=36&ch=1&l=4#x
“The purposes of the occupation of Germany by which the Control Council shall be guided are:
(1)17
The complete disarmament and demilitarization of Germany and the elimination or control of all German industry that could be used for military production. To these ends…”
WW2 -Nazi Aleph vs. Communist Aleph (Nazi swastika another sign telling what was really happening?):
"The swastika came to the Jews via the ancient Semitic tribes, of which they were an organic part, and represents the letter Aleph."
The Synagogue at Capernaum. Built between the 2nd and 4th century AD.
https://fa.proswastika.org/news.php?extend.228.9
More synagogues that have it
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-09-24-tr-48-story.html
Quote from joshf731 on March 21, 2023, 15:57Quote from joshf731 on January 10, 2023, 10:57
WW2 truth investigator Ingrid Weckert recorded in her book (Feuerzeichen: Die Reichskristallnacht; 'Fire sign: The Reich’s Kristalnacht - banned in Germany), that Kristallnacht was deliberately organized by International Jews in cooperation with LICA (The International League Against Racism and Anti-Semitism—or Ligue internationale contre le racisme et l'antisémitisme):
para 32
Soon after Kristallnacht (9/10th Nov 1934) the Reich Central Office for Jewish Emigration (Reichszentrale für Jüdische Auswanderung) was established in Berlin with (Jew) Reinhard Heydrich at the head. It was charged with the task of using all available means to prompt Jews to emigrate, and of establishing a Jewish organization that would incorporate all of German Jewry and co-ordinate emigration from the Jewish side.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Office_for_Jewish_Emigration
In May 1935, (Jew) Reinhard Heydrich, the chief of the SS Security Service, wrote an article in which he separated Jews into two categories. The Jews he favored were the Zionists: “Our good wishes & goodwill go with them.”
https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/document/mideast/hidden/ch06.htm#f82
“Needless to say, the nationwide Kristallnacht ("Night of Crystal") in Germany in November 1938 facilitated a sharp increase in Jewish emigration.”
para 4 https://web.archive.org/web/20190915031800/https://sputniknews.com/europe/201510081028226503-british-concentration-camps-jewish-refugees-wwii/
Kristallnacht just so happened to fall on the Kabbalistic date of 9/11 (In German)
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/9-437-video
“The format dd.mm.yyyy using dots (which denote ordinal numbering) is the traditional German date format.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country#Table_coding
The name Night of Broken Glass looks like it is to symbolize that this event will lead to the return of the exiles to Israel, representing the marriage of the Jews to Moshiach and the repair of the destruction of the second temple:
"The reason Jews break a glass during the wedding ceremony is to remember two of the most important and tragic events of Jewish history: the destruction of the Jewish temples. The oldest reference to breaking glass during a wedding in Jewish literature is in the Talmud."
paras 4 & 6 https://www.insider.com/jewish-wedding-glass-break-tradition-2017-4
"On Tisha b'Av, with the destruction of the Holy Temple and the commencement of two millenniums of exile, we embarked upon a most horrifically painful long stretch of estrangement. The goal? To reach the pinnacle of passion and head-over-heals infatuation. The result of this estrangement will be the grandest wedding of all times, the coming of Moshiach which will usher in an era of eternal marital bliss.
It is this ultimate marriage that we celebrate on the 15th of Av. This day, a mere six days after Tisha b'Av, symbolizes our rebound; the reconciliation that follows the estrangement of Tisha b'Av—and its raison d'être."
paras 10-11 https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/717175/jewish/Of-Holidays-and-Weddings.htm
The Crucified Jew - Twenty Centuries of Christian Anti-Semitism (pp. 231-232):
"The British Jewish theologian Ignaz Maybaum, for example, contends that Jews died in the concentration camps for the sins of mankind as God's suffering servant and sacrificial lamb. For Maybaum, Auschwitz is the analogue of Golgotha, and he sees the NAZIS AS INSTRUMENTS OF GOD'S WILL. On the analogy of Nebuchadnezzar, who in Jeremiah 27:6 is described as God's servant, Maybaum maintains that HITLER PLAYED A DIVINELY INSTRUMENTAL ROLE in the purification of a sinful world. God is pictured at Auschwitz in the role of a surgeon performing a necessary operation, cutting out a part of Israel for the renewal of the body of mankind. Jews therefore suffer in order to bring about the rule of God over the world and its peoples; THEIR GOD-APPOINTED MISSION IS TO SERVE THE COURSE OF HISTORICAL PROGRESS AND BRING MANKIND INTO A NEW ERA."
During Kristallnacht, only Reform synagogues were burned - none of them were Orthodox
https://web.archive.org/web/20220530104841/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtrh3FDUTkQ
Quote from joshf731 on January 10, 2023, 10:57
WW2 truth investigator Ingrid Weckert recorded in her book (Feuerzeichen: Die Reichskristallnacht; 'Fire sign: The Reich’s Kristalnacht - banned in Germany), that Kristallnacht was deliberately organized by International Jews in cooperation with LICA (The International League Against Racism and Anti-Semitism—or Ligue internationale contre le racisme et l'antisémitisme):
para 32
Soon after Kristallnacht (9/10th Nov 1934) the Reich Central Office for Jewish Emigration (Reichszentrale für Jüdische Auswanderung) was established in Berlin with (Jew) Reinhard Heydrich at the head. It was charged with the task of using all available means to prompt Jews to emigrate, and of establishing a Jewish organization that would incorporate all of German Jewry and co-ordinate emigration from the Jewish side.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Office_for_Jewish_Emigration
In May 1935, (Jew) Reinhard Heydrich, the chief of the SS Security Service, wrote an article in which he separated Jews into two categories. The Jews he favored were the Zionists: “Our good wishes & goodwill go with them.”
https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/document/mideast/hidden/ch06.htm#f82
“Needless to say, the nationwide Kristallnacht ("Night of Crystal") in Germany in November 1938 facilitated a sharp increase in Jewish emigration.”
Kristallnacht just so happened to fall on the Kabbalistic date of 9/11 (In German)
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/9-437-video
“The format dd.mm.yyyy using dots (which denote ordinal numbering) is the traditional German date format.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country#Table_coding
The name Night of Broken Glass looks like it is to symbolize that this event will lead to the return of the exiles to Israel, representing the marriage of the Jews to Moshiach and the repair of the destruction of the second temple:
"The reason Jews break a glass during the wedding ceremony is to remember two of the most important and tragic events of Jewish history: the destruction of the Jewish temples. The oldest reference to breaking glass during a wedding in Jewish literature is in the Talmud."
paras 4 & 6 https://www.insider.com/jewish-wedding-glass-break-tradition-2017-4
"On Tisha b'Av, with the destruction of the Holy Temple and the commencement of two millenniums of exile, we embarked upon a most horrifically painful long stretch of estrangement. The goal? To reach the pinnacle of passion and head-over-heals infatuation. The result of this estrangement will be the grandest wedding of all times, the coming of Moshiach which will usher in an era of eternal marital bliss.
It is this ultimate marriage that we celebrate on the 15th of Av. This day, a mere six days after Tisha b'Av, symbolizes our rebound; the reconciliation that follows the estrangement of Tisha b'Av—and its raison d'être."
paras 10-11 https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/717175/jewish/Of-Holidays-and-Weddings.htm
The Crucified Jew - Twenty Centuries of Christian Anti-Semitism (pp. 231-232):
"The British Jewish theologian Ignaz Maybaum, for example, contends that Jews died in the concentration camps for the sins of mankind as God's suffering servant and sacrificial lamb. For Maybaum, Auschwitz is the analogue of Golgotha, and he sees the NAZIS AS INSTRUMENTS OF GOD'S WILL. On the analogy of Nebuchadnezzar, who in Jeremiah 27:6 is described as God's servant, Maybaum maintains that HITLER PLAYED A DIVINELY INSTRUMENTAL ROLE in the purification of a sinful world. God is pictured at Auschwitz in the role of a surgeon performing a necessary operation, cutting out a part of Israel for the renewal of the body of mankind. Jews therefore suffer in order to bring about the rule of God over the world and its peoples; THEIR GOD-APPOINTED MISSION IS TO SERVE THE COURSE OF HISTORICAL PROGRESS AND BRING MANKIND INTO A NEW ERA."
During Kristallnacht, only Reform synagogues were burned - none of them were Orthodox
https://web.archive.org/web/20220805192613/https://twitter.com/AdamToMessiah/status/1555264418262536192
https://web.archive.org/web/20220530104841/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtrh3FDUTkQ
Quote from joshf731 on March 21, 2023, 16:01Quote from joshf731 on November 17, 2022, 06:26
One of the biggest - if not the biggest - industrialists of the early 20s in Germany was Hugo Stinnes, who massively profited out of WW1 and became one of the most powerful individuals in Germany in the 20s.
He had a massive amount of political power.
https://web.archive.org/web/20221113135232/https://files.catbox.moe/ol1oxx.png
He looked Jewish, had Jewish business partners, and was helped to become as rich as he was through the Mendelssohn banking firm. He was also accused of being part of a Jewish conspiracy against Russia.
He was friends with the Jew Walther Rathenau, who played a prominent role in draining the German wealth because of the Versailles Treaty. Rathenau also claimed that Stinnes was not an anti-semite and had personal relationships with a number of Jews.
https://web.archive.org/web/20221113135345/https://files.catbox.moe/7k6q4z.png This is backed up by this:
“Stinnes' connection with Ludendorff led to his becoming an influence behind the scenes in German politics. A prominent capitalist and conservative, in 1918 he became a founding member of the Deutsche Volkspartei (German People's Party or DVP), the new electioneering name of the former National Liberal Party.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Stinnes
From 1920 until his death Stresemann was a Reichstag deputy and chairman of the German People’s Party - He had a Jewish wife.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Gustav-Stresemann
https://www.jta.org/archive/stresemann-target-of-attacks-due-to-jewish-wife
The American Jewish World 1924 gives us an insight that much daily press was reporting that Hugo Stinnes was of Jewish heritage during this time.
From the same article:
“A German editor, who was in more or less constant touch with the ironmaster for the past twelve years, claims not only that Stinnes was by no means an anti-Semite, but that the greatest admiration he ever cherished for any man was for the Jew, Albert Ballin, the late Director-General of the Hamburg-American Line. This editor happened to be with Stinnes when the news of Ballin's suicide was reported by wire. Stinnes broke down, and with tears in his eyes, declared that he had lost his best friend and that the only friend left him was Felix Deutsch (another Jew). It is a fact that Stinnes used to frequent the house of Deutsch. Of a very retiring nature, taciturn, Stinnes shunned all social functions and seldom visited anyone. In the Deutsch home, however, in a small and intimate circle of friends, he used to speak quite easily and frankly. This same gentleman also told me that Stinnes and Rathenau had become reconciled.”
And check out this quote from the same article:
“One of them, a German businessman, told me: It is true that Stinnes was an anti-Semite, or, rather, the recognized protector of German anti-Semitism. But he saw in Jew-baiting only an efficient means for diverting the anger of the suffering masses that he exploited so ruthlessly. This is why he freely gave his support and encouragement to the Ludendorff and Hitler groups.”
And this is not the first time Hugo Stinnes supported 'anti-semites'.
“According to Stadtler's memoirs published in 1935, German entrepreneurs organized and paid for the military operations of the Freikorps against the Berlin Spartacist Uprising and the contract killings of Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht on January 15, 1919, from a fund connected to the organization
Through the mediation of Helfferich, Stadtler received 5,000 marks in cash personally on November 28, 1918, as a ‘gift’ from the Deutsche Bank from its director Paul Mankiewitz. (Mankiewitz was Jewish)."
And:
"On January 10, 1919, around 50 top representatives of German industry, commerce and banking met and set up an anti-Bolshevik fund for German entrepreneurs. Paul Mankiewitz from Deutsche Bank organized the meeting in the rooms of the Flugverbandshaus in Berlin. Among the invited participants, who were expressly intended to appear in person, were the head of the industrial association, Hugo Stinnes, Albert Vögler, Carl Friedrich von Siemens, Otto Henrich (Siemens-Schuckert-Werke), Ernst von Borsig, Felix Deutsch from AEG, Arthur Salomonsohn from Disconto-Gesellschaft.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Bolshevist_League
Side note: Speaking of the Deutsche Bank, here is a top Hungarian Jew close to the bank.
“Though it was the anarchists, Spartacists, and People's commissars who dominated the image of the Jew in politics, the less spectacular acts of those who fought in the civilian militias against the far Left in order to defend the recent democratic gains were probably closest to the epicentre of Jewish opinion.”
More financing 'anti-semites':
The Australian Jewish Chronicle, Thu 23 Aug 1923, Page 5:
RENEGADE JEW FINANCES ANTI-SEMITES.
"The Socialist Deputy Danneberg, speaking in the Austrian Chamber, declared that he had information proving that the financier, Mr. Castiglioni, the baptized son of a Rabbi, had combined with (Jew) Mr. Hugo Stinnes, and together with him was financing the “Swastika” movement in Germany and Austria. It was from this combination, he said, that the anti-Jewish and anti-Democratic movement was deriving its huge financial resources."
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/260893080
The Australian Jewish Chronicle 27 Jul 1922, Page 8:
“Stinnes The Instigator.
Correspondence has been published in Germany which shows conclusively that Herr Hugo Stinnes, the well known financier, is financing, at least to a large extent, the Anti-Semitic agitation in the worst class of German papers.”
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/260890293
Stines-Mendelssohn conspiracy note
Hugo Stannis was also a supporter of an organization that was run by Jews, pushing Jewish interests:
https://web.archive.org/web/20221113140527/https://files.catbox.moe/kyq3fv.png Hugo Herman Stinnes was his son.
“Stinnes took part in the secret meeting of February 20, 1933, at which the industry decided on an election fund of 3 million Reichsmarks for the NSDAP”
“The secret meeting of February 20, 1933 was a post- seizure meeting of Adolf Hitler with 27 industrialists at Hermann Goering's official residence in the Reichstag President's Palace to finance the Nazi Party 's campaign in the Reichstag elections of March 5, 1933.”
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geheimtreffen_vom_20._Februar_1933
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Hermann_Stinnes
“The ancestors are always among them. Especially when your name is Stinnes. At the beginning of the 20th century, Stinnes stood for the largest economic empire in Germany - with almost 600,000 employees. On Monday, members of this dynasty, whose company headquarters were once in Mühlheim an der Ruhr, met on the traditional Hamburg ship "Rickmer Rickmers". The occasion was the presentation of a new book about the checkered history of the entrepreneurial family, which is also traditionally associated with the Hanseatic city.
In the publication "Die Stinnes. vom Rhein in die Welt" (Signum Verlag Wien), the two North German journalists Bernhard-Michael Domberg and Klaus Rathje refer to a historical fact that has so far been little researched: the son of the company patriarch Hugo Stinnes (1870-1924 ), Hugo Stinnes junior (1897-1984), helped numerous Jews to flee to America during the Nazi era. From 1939 to 1942, they were able to flee from Nazi terror with forged papers, alone, in pairs or in whole families. At great personal risk, he enabled them to use the Stinnes Line's cargo or passenger ships from Hamburg and Emden.”
Paragraphs 1-2
https://www.welt.de/welt_print/article3637083/Der-Oskar-Schindler-von-Hamburg.html
Hanseatic=Hansa
“Upon the death in 1924 of the founder, Hugo Stinnes, Vögler became manager. In 1918, with Gustav Stresemann, he was involved in the founding of the German People's Party (DVP) in the Weimar Republic. He criticised the policies of Joseph Wirth who signed agreements with France in accordance with Germany's submission to the French occupation of the Ruhr in 1923. In 1924 he left the DVP.
As a business man, Vögler feared the rise of communism in Germany. Records of donations from Vögler to the Nazi Party from as early as 1931 exist. Vögler met Adolf Hitler on 11 September 1931. From 1932 Vögler openly funded the Nazi party. He was a member of the Freundeskreis Himmler.[3] Hitler became German Chancellor on 30 January 1933. He held a meeting with Hermann Göring, and German industrialists on 20 February 1933. Vögler was present at this meeting. Hitler presented the Nazi Party's political plans, and received a total of three million marks in donations.[1] During the latter part of the 1930s, Vögler was described by Jewish businessman Max von der Porten as one of the industrialists who focused primarily on business and hardly speaks of politics and do not want to know anything about it.[4]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_V%C3%B6gler
He was very close to Stinnes, & he was a student of his:
“A student of Hugo Stinnes, Vögler was a self-made man who had carved out an unprecedented career which had begun at Dortmunder Union.”
https://www.mpg.de/8241517/albert-voegler
So for those saying that Hitler didn't receive Jewish aid, how will they spin this exactly?
Quote from joshf731 on November 17, 2022, 06:26
One of the biggest - if not the biggest - industrialists of the early 20s in Germany was Hugo Stinnes, who massively profited out of WW1 and became one of the most powerful individuals in Germany in the 20s.
He had a massive amount of political power.
https://web.archive.org/web/20221113135232/https://files.catbox.moe/ol1oxx.png
He looked Jewish, had Jewish business partners, and was helped to become as rich as he was through the Mendelssohn banking firm. He was also accused of being part of a Jewish conspiracy against Russia.
He was friends with the Jew Walther Rathenau, who played a prominent role in draining the German wealth because of the Versailles Treaty. Rathenau also claimed that Stinnes was not an anti-semite and had personal relationships with a number of Jews.
https://web.archive.org/web/20221113135345/https://files.catbox.moe/7k6q4z.png This is backed up by this:
“Stinnes' connection with Ludendorff led to his becoming an influence behind the scenes in German politics. A prominent capitalist and conservative, in 1918 he became a founding member of the Deutsche Volkspartei (German People's Party or DVP), the new electioneering name of the former National Liberal Party.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Stinnes
From 1920 until his death Stresemann was a Reichstag deputy and chairman of the German People’s Party - He had a Jewish wife.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Gustav-Stresemann
https://www.jta.org/archive/stresemann-target-of-attacks-due-to-jewish-wife
The American Jewish World 1924 gives us an insight that much daily press was reporting that Hugo Stinnes was of Jewish heritage during this time.
From the same article:
“A German editor, who was in more or less constant touch with the ironmaster for the past twelve years, claims not only that Stinnes was by no means an anti-Semite, but that the greatest admiration he ever cherished for any man was for the Jew, Albert Ballin, the late Director-General of the Hamburg-American Line. This editor happened to be with Stinnes when the news of Ballin's suicide was reported by wire. Stinnes broke down, and with tears in his eyes, declared that he had lost his best friend and that the only friend left him was Felix Deutsch (another Jew). It is a fact that Stinnes used to frequent the house of Deutsch. Of a very retiring nature, taciturn, Stinnes shunned all social functions and seldom visited anyone. In the Deutsch home, however, in a small and intimate circle of friends, he used to speak quite easily and frankly. This same gentleman also told me that Stinnes and Rathenau had become reconciled.”
And check out this quote from the same article:
“One of them, a German businessman, told me: It is true that Stinnes was an anti-Semite, or, rather, the recognized protector of German anti-Semitism. But he saw in Jew-baiting only an efficient means for diverting the anger of the suffering masses that he exploited so ruthlessly. This is why he freely gave his support and encouragement to the Ludendorff and Hitler groups.”
https://www.nli.org.il/en/newspapers/amjwld/1924/04/18/01/article/31/?e=-------en-20--1--img-txIN%7ctxTI--------------1
And this is not the first time Hugo Stinnes supported 'anti-semites'.
“According to Stadtler's memoirs published in 1935, German entrepreneurs organized and paid for the military operations of the Freikorps against the Berlin Spartacist Uprising and the contract killings of Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht on January 15, 1919, from a fund connected to the organization
Through the mediation of Helfferich, Stadtler received 5,000 marks in cash personally on November 28, 1918, as a ‘gift’ from the Deutsche Bank from its director Paul Mankiewitz. (Mankiewitz was Jewish)."
And:
"On January 10, 1919, around 50 top representatives of German industry, commerce and banking met and set up an anti-Bolshevik fund for German entrepreneurs. Paul Mankiewitz from Deutsche Bank organized the meeting in the rooms of the Flugverbandshaus in Berlin. Among the invited participants, who were expressly intended to appear in person, were the head of the industrial association, Hugo Stinnes, Albert Vögler, Carl Friedrich von Siemens, Otto Henrich (Siemens-Schuckert-Werke), Ernst von Borsig, Felix Deutsch from AEG, Arthur Salomonsohn from Disconto-Gesellschaft.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Bolshevist_League
Side note: Speaking of the Deutsche Bank, here is a top Hungarian Jew close to the bank.
“Though it was the anarchists, Spartacists, and People's commissars who dominated the image of the Jew in politics, the less spectacular acts of those who fought in the civilian militias against the far Left in order to defend the recent democratic gains were probably closest to the epicentre of Jewish opinion.”
https://www.google.ca/books/edition/Jews_and_the_German_State/T8tVo-xbKn8C?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Jews+and+the+German+State:+The+Political+History+of+a+Minority,+1848-1933&printsec=frontcover
More financing 'anti-semites':
The Australian Jewish Chronicle, Thu 23 Aug 1923, Page 5:
RENEGADE JEW FINANCES ANTI-SEMITES.
"The Socialist Deputy Danneberg, speaking in the Austrian Chamber, declared that he had information proving that the financier, Mr. Castiglioni, the baptized son of a Rabbi, had combined with (Jew) Mr. Hugo Stinnes, and together with him was financing the “Swastika” movement in Germany and Austria. It was from this combination, he said, that the anti-Jewish and anti-Democratic movement was deriving its huge financial resources."
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/260893080
The Australian Jewish Chronicle 27 Jul 1922, Page 8:
“Stinnes The Instigator.
Correspondence has been published in Germany which shows conclusively that Herr Hugo Stinnes, the well known financier, is financing, at least to a large extent, the Anti-Semitic agitation in the worst class of German papers.”
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/260890293
Stines-Mendelssohn conspiracy note
Hugo Stannis was also a supporter of an organization that was run by Jews, pushing Jewish interests:
https://web.archive.org/web/20221113140527/https://files.catbox.moe/kyq3fv.png Hugo Herman Stinnes was his son.
“Stinnes took part in the secret meeting of February 20, 1933, at which the industry decided on an election fund of 3 million Reichsmarks for the NSDAP”
“The secret meeting of February 20, 1933 was a post- seizure meeting of Adolf Hitler with 27 industrialists at Hermann Goering's official residence in the Reichstag President's Palace to finance the Nazi Party 's campaign in the Reichstag elections of March 5, 1933.”
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geheimtreffen_vom_20._Februar_1933
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Hermann_Stinnes
“The ancestors are always among them. Especially when your name is Stinnes. At the beginning of the 20th century, Stinnes stood for the largest economic empire in Germany - with almost 600,000 employees. On Monday, members of this dynasty, whose company headquarters were once in Mühlheim an der Ruhr, met on the traditional Hamburg ship "Rickmer Rickmers". The occasion was the presentation of a new book about the checkered history of the entrepreneurial family, which is also traditionally associated with the Hanseatic city.
In the publication "Die Stinnes. vom Rhein in die Welt" (Signum Verlag Wien), the two North German journalists Bernhard-Michael Domberg and Klaus Rathje refer to a historical fact that has so far been little researched: the son of the company patriarch Hugo Stinnes (1870-1924 ), Hugo Stinnes junior (1897-1984), helped numerous Jews to flee to America during the Nazi era. From 1939 to 1942, they were able to flee from Nazi terror with forged papers, alone, in pairs or in whole families. At great personal risk, he enabled them to use the Stinnes Line's cargo or passenger ships from Hamburg and Emden.”
Paragraphs 1-2
https://www.welt.de/welt_print/article3637083/Der-Oskar-Schindler-von-Hamburg.html
Hanseatic=Hansa
“Upon the death in 1924 of the founder, Hugo Stinnes, Vögler became manager. In 1918, with Gustav Stresemann, he was involved in the founding of the German People's Party (DVP) in the Weimar Republic. He criticised the policies of Joseph Wirth who signed agreements with France in accordance with Germany's submission to the French occupation of the Ruhr in 1923. In 1924 he left the DVP.
As a business man, Vögler feared the rise of communism in Germany. Records of donations from Vögler to the Nazi Party from as early as 1931 exist. Vögler met Adolf Hitler on 11 September 1931. From 1932 Vögler openly funded the Nazi party. He was a member of the Freundeskreis Himmler.[3] Hitler became German Chancellor on 30 January 1933. He held a meeting with Hermann Göring, and German industrialists on 20 February 1933. Vögler was present at this meeting. Hitler presented the Nazi Party's political plans, and received a total of three million marks in donations.[1] During the latter part of the 1930s, Vögler was described by Jewish businessman Max von der Porten as one of the industrialists who focused primarily on business and hardly speaks of politics and do not want to know anything about it.[4]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_V%C3%B6gler
He was very close to Stinnes, & he was a student of his:
“A student of Hugo Stinnes, Vögler was a self-made man who had carved out an unprecedented career which had begun at Dortmunder Union.”
https://www.mpg.de/8241517/albert-voegler
So for those saying that Hitler didn't receive Jewish aid, how will they spin this exactly?
Quote from joshf731 on March 21, 2023, 16:43Quote from joshf731 on February 10, 2023, 09:14Werner von Blomberg, a German General Staff officer and the first Minister of War in Adolf Hitler's government said he & the German Army had learned 'propaganda techniques' from the Bolsheviks. He helped to build up the Red Army
https://fitzinfo.net/forum/topic/hitler-the-kabbalistic-talmudic-creation-of-ww2/?part=16#postid-634
The Journal of Modern History, Vol. 82, No. 2, The Persistence of Religion in Modern Europe (June 2010), pp. 396-433 (38 pages):
"A pastoral letter [from Bishop of Münster] of September 1941 accused the Nazis of hypocrisy because they proclaimed a crusade against Bolshevism abroad but employed Bolshevik methods [against churches] at home."
More about General Werner Von Blomberg.
During his visit to Russia, he was very much impressed with the status that the Red Army had in the Soviet Union and that inspired him to support Hitler and National Socialism as they could do to the German Army what the Bolsheviks did with the Red Army;
According to the interrogation of General Georg Thomas, Thomas stated this about Blomberg;
pg. 3 https://s3.amazonaws.com/cul-hydra/nur/nur00517/pdfs/nur00517.pdf
“It was Blomberg's idea to get all soldiers to pledge an oath of personal loyalty to Hitler. In April 1936 Blomberg became Hitler's first field marshal.”
para 5 https://spartacus-educational.com/GERblomberg.htm
Wiki on the surname Blumberg; Many with the name are of Ashkenazi descent; its Sephardi equivalent is Montefiore
“This surname of BLOMBERG was a Jewish ornamental name from the Yiddish 'blum' meaning a flower. When traditional Jews were forced to take family names by the local bureaucracy, it was an obligation imposed from outside traditional society, and people often took the names playfully and let their imaginations run wild by choosing names which corresponded to nothing real in their world. No one alive today can remember the times when Jews took or were given family names (for most Ashkenazim this was the end of the 18th century or the beginning of the 19th)”
https://www.4crests.com/blomberg-coat-of-arms.html
Grandfather of Blomberg - Hidden hand
https://www.geni.com/photo/view/6000000179790202880?album_type=photos_of_me&photo_id=6000000179795594831
The grandmother of Blomberg: A "von Schmalenberg" can be found on her maternal line
https://www.geni.com/people/Anna-Barbara-von-Schmalenberg/6000000077275874869
Schmalenberg seems to be a very uncommon surname today, but it's a town in Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmalenberg
and we know how Jews often name themselves after towns, cities, locations etc.
“It is also thought that sometime in the past my ancestors were "von Schmalenberg". They originally came from the Pfaltz area of western Germany. My earliest record of them is from a photocopy of a confirmation of a marriage certificate. My Grandmother needed this in WW2 to prove she wasn't Jewish. It states:
It is noted in the marriage records that on May 15,1888 Jakob Schmalenberg (Roman Catholic) son of Friedrich and of Katherina Siebert, born in Tolszere near Lemberg in 1860, was married to Elisabeth Bauer (Roman Catholic) daughter of Josef and Theresia Schmidt, born in Lubsza near Stryj in 1869, in the local Catholic Church.
Machlinec Nov 30,1939"
http://www.forkheim.ca/family/fam4.html
Interesting how the proof that she wasn't 'Jewish' was just their stated religion even though they could have easily been ethnically Jewish but ‘converted’ to Catholicism as is the case many times.
This does not prove that Blomberg has Jewish lineage, but it does indicate that he might have had. But it seems at least that his grandfather was a mason.
Quote from joshf731 on February 10, 2023, 09:14Werner von Blomberg, a German General Staff officer and the first Minister of War in Adolf Hitler's government said he & the German Army had learned 'propaganda techniques' from the Bolsheviks. He helped to build up the Red Army
https://fitzinfo.net/forum/topic/hitler-the-kabbalistic-talmudic-creation-of-ww2/?part=16#postid-634
The Journal of Modern History, Vol. 82, No. 2, The Persistence of Religion in Modern Europe (June 2010), pp. 396-433 (38 pages):
"A pastoral letter [from Bishop of Münster] of September 1941 accused the Nazis of hypocrisy because they proclaimed a crusade against Bolshevism abroad but employed Bolshevik methods [against churches] at home."
More about General Werner Von Blomberg.
During his visit to Russia, he was very much impressed with the status that the Red Army had in the Soviet Union and that inspired him to support Hitler and National Socialism as they could do to the German Army what the Bolsheviks did with the Red Army;
According to the interrogation of General Georg Thomas, Thomas stated this about Blomberg;
pg. 3 https://s3.amazonaws.com/cul-hydra/nur/nur00517/pdfs/nur00517.pdf
“It was Blomberg's idea to get all soldiers to pledge an oath of personal loyalty to Hitler. In April 1936 Blomberg became Hitler's first field marshal.”
para 5 https://spartacus-educational.com/GERblomberg.htm
Wiki on the surname Blumberg; Many with the name are of Ashkenazi descent; its Sephardi equivalent is Montefiore
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blumberg_(surname)#:~:text=Blumberg%20is%20a%20surname%20of,%2C%20Blomberg%2C%20Bloemberg%20and%20Bloomberg
“This surname of BLOMBERG was a Jewish ornamental name from the Yiddish 'blum' meaning a flower. When traditional Jews were forced to take family names by the local bureaucracy, it was an obligation imposed from outside traditional society, and people often took the names playfully and let their imaginations run wild by choosing names which corresponded to nothing real in their world. No one alive today can remember the times when Jews took or were given family names (for most Ashkenazim this was the end of the 18th century or the beginning of the 19th)”
https://www.4crests.com/blomberg-coat-of-arms.html
Grandfather of Blomberg - Hidden hand
The grandmother of Blomberg: A "von Schmalenberg" can be found on her maternal line
https://www.geni.com/people/Anna-Barbara-von-Schmalenberg/6000000077275874869
Schmalenberg seems to be a very uncommon surname today, but it's a town in Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmalenberg
and we know how Jews often name themselves after towns, cities, locations etc.
“It is also thought that sometime in the past my ancestors were "von Schmalenberg". They originally came from the Pfaltz area of western Germany. My earliest record of them is from a photocopy of a confirmation of a marriage certificate. My Grandmother needed this in WW2 to prove she wasn't Jewish. It states:
It is noted in the marriage records that on May 15,1888 Jakob Schmalenberg (Roman Catholic) son of Friedrich and of Katherina Siebert, born in Tolszere near Lemberg in 1860, was married to Elisabeth Bauer (Roman Catholic) daughter of Josef and Theresia Schmidt, born in Lubsza near Stryj in 1869, in the local Catholic Church.
Machlinec Nov 30,1939"
http://www.forkheim.ca/family/fam4.html
Interesting how the proof that she wasn't 'Jewish' was just their stated religion even though they could have easily been ethnically Jewish but ‘converted’ to Catholicism as is the case many times.
This does not prove that Blomberg has Jewish lineage, but it does indicate that he might have had. But it seems at least that his grandfather was a mason.
Quote from joshf731 on March 22, 2023, 08:50Quote from joshf731 on March 9, 2023, 15:34As Otto Khan, a Kuhn Loeb partner stated after WW1, the bankers "re-make the world by creating artificial conflicts and determining the outcome,” Anthony Sutton discovered, certain prime military targets in Germany were not bombed during WW2, because they were American corporate interests
Professor Anthony Sutton from 12m 30s
https://web.archive.org/web/20170606155158/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtT4gcTYgmg
Russian-Jewish website:
“With all due respect, you remind me of the German-Jewish bankers who in the 1930s, hoping to escape, supplied Hitler with money, and a few years later ended their lives in the crematorium ovens.”
http://www.jerusalem-korczak-home.com/np/mir/09/np222.html
Hitler’s Bankers
https://tonyisola.com/2019/02/hitlers-bankers/
33rd-degree Freemason Hjalmar Schacht was one of the founding fathers of BIS
text-page 50 http://www.international-economy.com/TIE_F05_Engelen.pdf
We also see that Nazi Germany did the same - One aspect of the German campaign on the Eastern Front that's often ignored or overlooked is the role of the war industries in the Soviet Union and how they were barely touched by the Luftwaffe.
“Annual figures and cumulative totals of war production of the two powers in physical units are shown in table 5.1. It is notable that overall Soviet production outweighed that of Germany in virtually every item listed; only in shipbuilding did Soviet industry fail to compete. More remarkable is the fact that the Soviet advantage was at its greatest in 1942; just when its struggle against the Wehrmacht for the military advantage was at the most intense, the Red Army was receiving combat aircraft at twice the rate of delivery to the enemy, and 3 or 4 times the flow of most other types of ground forces’ armament. After 1942 the pace of German war production accelerated, but Germany’s context had already changed to one of commitments multiplying out of control and an inexorable unfolding of defeat.
In summary, the Soviet Union outproduced Germany in all branches of war production other than shipbuilding in World War II. Soviet production superiority was especially marked in 1942. Despite the fact that this was a war which German leaders had planned, and which took Soviet leaders by surprise, and despite the burdens imposed by Germany’s deep penetration of Soviet territory, Soviet industry was mobilised more rapidly than German industry. The Soviet Union’s war production was already within 5 per cent of its peak in the last quarter of 1942, a full 18 months before Germany’s began to crest.”
Pages 2 & 3
https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/mharrison/public/opk2000mobilisation.pdf
And why was that?
From Directive No.21 OPERATION BARBAROSSA: Pertaining to the role of the Luftwaffe
“Its mission will be to paralyze and eliminate the Russian air force, and to support the Army's operations at the points of main effort, particularly in the Army Group Center area and along the north wing of Army Group South. According to their significance for the course of the campaign, the Russian railways will be severed by air attacks. In some instances most important railroad installations (river crossings!) will be seized by vertical envelopments performed by parachute and airborne troops.
In order to concentrate the entire striking power of the German Air Force on neutralizing the enemy air force and on providing direct support for the Army, THE RUSSIAN ARMAMENT INDUSTRY WILL NOT BE ATTACKED DURING THE INITIAL PHASE OF THE CAMPAIGN. Once the war of movement has come to a conclusion, such attacks might be considered, particularly against the industrial region in the Urals.
The faulty concept of a short war was also the reason why the Luftwaffe's mission was mainly to lend tactical ground support. Strategic bombing was to be envisaged only after the war of movement had been brought to its conclusion, i. e. after the campaign in European Russia had been won. Hitler and his military advisers deemed it unnecessary to smash the Soviet armament potential or even interfere with production schedules. Nor was it considered important to disrupt rail communications to the Urals and Central Asia, a course of action that might have prevented the subsequent evacuation of Soviet war industries and the moving up of reinforcements.
The fact that the Luftwaffe had no specific strategic air force probably contributed to these crucial decisions. Whatever strategic air units the Germans had left after the Battle of Britain were eventually dissipated in tactical fighting, probably because both strategic and tactical units operated under the same tactical headquarters.”
Pages 24 & 90 https://history.army.mil/html/books/104/104-21/cmhPub_104-21.pdf
This is one component of scripting wars because it means it is easier to manage and control the 'defeat' of one side, as was the case in Vietnam when they imposed absurd restrictions on the US military;
1hr 22m 23s - 1hr 24m 35s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMOPZzz2_DY&t=5132s
Goering ensured that the Luftwaffe would be lacking in long-range bombers because the doctrine that was set up for the Luftwaffe absolutely allowed for strategic bombings.
The doctrine reflected Luftwaffe's first Chief of Staff, Walther Wever (1935-1936) views, who said this in an address delivered in November 1935 he defined “the task which we set our air force” as, and this is one example;
“To paralyze the enemy armed force by stopping production in armaments factories.”
More on General Wever;
“General Wever ''was convinced like Douhet, that modern war could not be limited at will in time and space,'' and had intended to ''introduce long-range bombers in order to create a strategic bombardment force as the backbone of German aviation.'' Five prototypes of long-range four-engined bombers of two designs (Ju-89 and Do-19), commissioned by Wever, were undergoing tests in 1936.”
What happened to General Wever? He died in an air crash in 1936...Quite suspicious.
This makes it more suspicious:
“After his death (Wever) in an air crash in June 1936, they were scrapped on orders of Goering's Reich Air Ministry, and development work on heavy long-range bombers remained almost dormant until nearly the outbreak of the war.”
https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_memoranda/2006/RM6206.pdf
After his death, Goering scrapped Wever's plans for strategic bombers. It looks like Wever was murdered.
Goering was raised by a Jewish stepfather who left him his fortune and title. His number 2 Milch, Jewish, as was his number 3, Wilberg. All of them were instrumental in some massive crucial failures like German air doctrine.
Quote from joshf731 on March 9, 2023, 15:34As Otto Khan, a Kuhn Loeb partner stated after WW1, the bankers "re-make the world by creating artificial conflicts and determining the outcome,” Anthony Sutton discovered, certain prime military targets in Germany were not bombed during WW2, because they were American corporate interests
Professor Anthony Sutton from 12m 30s
https://web.archive.org/web/20170606155158/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtT4gcTYgmg
Russian-Jewish website:
“With all due respect, you remind me of the German-Jewish bankers who in the 1930s, hoping to escape, supplied Hitler with money, and a few years later ended their lives in the crematorium ovens.”
http://www.jerusalem-korczak-home.com/np/mir/09/np222.html
Hitler’s Bankers
https://tonyisola.com/2019/02/hitlers-bankers/
33rd-degree Freemason Hjalmar Schacht was one of the founding fathers of BIS
text-page 50 http://www.international-economy.com/TIE_F05_Engelen.pdf
We also see that Nazi Germany did the same - One aspect of the German campaign on the Eastern Front that's often ignored or overlooked is the role of the war industries in the Soviet Union and how they were barely touched by the Luftwaffe.
“Annual figures and cumulative totals of war production of the two powers in physical units are shown in table 5.1. It is notable that overall Soviet production outweighed that of Germany in virtually every item listed; only in shipbuilding did Soviet industry fail to compete. More remarkable is the fact that the Soviet advantage was at its greatest in 1942; just when its struggle against the Wehrmacht for the military advantage was at the most intense, the Red Army was receiving combat aircraft at twice the rate of delivery to the enemy, and 3 or 4 times the flow of most other types of ground forces’ armament. After 1942 the pace of German war production accelerated, but Germany’s context had already changed to one of commitments multiplying out of control and an inexorable unfolding of defeat.
In summary, the Soviet Union outproduced Germany in all branches of war production other than shipbuilding in World War II. Soviet production superiority was especially marked in 1942. Despite the fact that this was a war which German leaders had planned, and which took Soviet leaders by surprise, and despite the burdens imposed by Germany’s deep penetration of Soviet territory, Soviet industry was mobilised more rapidly than German industry. The Soviet Union’s war production was already within 5 per cent of its peak in the last quarter of 1942, a full 18 months before Germany’s began to crest.”
Pages 2 & 3
https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/mharrison/public/opk2000mobilisation.pdf
And why was that?
From Directive No.21 OPERATION BARBAROSSA: Pertaining to the role of the Luftwaffe
“Its mission will be to paralyze and eliminate the Russian air force, and to support the Army's operations at the points of main effort, particularly in the Army Group Center area and along the north wing of Army Group South. According to their significance for the course of the campaign, the Russian railways will be severed by air attacks. In some instances most important railroad installations (river crossings!) will be seized by vertical envelopments performed by parachute and airborne troops.
In order to concentrate the entire striking power of the German Air Force on neutralizing the enemy air force and on providing direct support for the Army, THE RUSSIAN ARMAMENT INDUSTRY WILL NOT BE ATTACKED DURING THE INITIAL PHASE OF THE CAMPAIGN. Once the war of movement has come to a conclusion, such attacks might be considered, particularly against the industrial region in the Urals.
The faulty concept of a short war was also the reason why the Luftwaffe's mission was mainly to lend tactical ground support. Strategic bombing was to be envisaged only after the war of movement had been brought to its conclusion, i. e. after the campaign in European Russia had been won. Hitler and his military advisers deemed it unnecessary to smash the Soviet armament potential or even interfere with production schedules. Nor was it considered important to disrupt rail communications to the Urals and Central Asia, a course of action that might have prevented the subsequent evacuation of Soviet war industries and the moving up of reinforcements.
The fact that the Luftwaffe had no specific strategic air force probably contributed to these crucial decisions. Whatever strategic air units the Germans had left after the Battle of Britain were eventually dissipated in tactical fighting, probably because both strategic and tactical units operated under the same tactical headquarters.”
Pages 24 & 90 https://history.army.mil/html/books/104/104-21/cmhPub_104-21.pdf
This is one component of scripting wars because it means it is easier to manage and control the 'defeat' of one side, as was the case in Vietnam when they imposed absurd restrictions on the US military;
1hr 22m 23s - 1hr 24m 35s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMOPZzz2_DY&t=5132s
Goering ensured that the Luftwaffe would be lacking in long-range bombers because the doctrine that was set up for the Luftwaffe absolutely allowed for strategic bombings.
The doctrine reflected Luftwaffe's first Chief of Staff, Walther Wever (1935-1936) views, who said this in an address delivered in November 1935 he defined “the task which we set our air force” as, and this is one example;
“To paralyze the enemy armed force by stopping production in armaments factories.”
More on General Wever;
“General Wever ''was convinced like Douhet, that modern war could not be limited at will in time and space,'' and had intended to ''introduce long-range bombers in order to create a strategic bombardment force as the backbone of German aviation.'' Five prototypes of long-range four-engined bombers of two designs (Ju-89 and Do-19), commissioned by Wever, were undergoing tests in 1936.”
What happened to General Wever? He died in an air crash in 1936...Quite suspicious.
This makes it more suspicious:
“After his death (Wever) in an air crash in June 1936, they were scrapped on orders of Goering's Reich Air Ministry, and development work on heavy long-range bombers remained almost dormant until nearly the outbreak of the war.”
https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_memoranda/2006/RM6206.pdf
After his death, Goering scrapped Wever's plans for strategic bombers. It looks like Wever was murdered.
Goering was raised by a Jewish stepfather who left him his fortune and title. His number 2 Milch, Jewish, as was his number 3, Wilberg. All of them were instrumental in some massive crucial failures like German air doctrine.
Quote from joshf731 on March 22, 2023, 09:34See page 14
https://history.army.mil/html/books/104/104-21/cmhPub_104-21.pdf
By Nov 1940, the common view of Hitler and the military was that the Soviet Union was afraid of Germany and that they had a low opinion of the military potential of the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union wanted to invade Germany, it wouldn't have happened in 1941. This would have given Germany more time to focus its effort on defeating Britain, and time is a very valuable resource during war.
Also if the Soviet Union were to invade Germany, Germany wouldn't have the disadvantage it had as the one invading. Such as attacking a country that is as large as Russia with the Red Army having the capability of prolonging the war by retreating further back as much as they wanted to fight another day. And also, the further the German Army went into Russian territory the longer the supply line got and Germany already had problems with transportation because of the shortage of oil.
They wouldn't have to deal with the muddy season or the dreaded Russian winter. The supply lines would have been much shorter, improving the mobility of the German Army.
And most importantly: the USA and the UK wouldn't have the excuse they needed to provide the Soviet Union lend-lease if the Soviet Union was the aggressor against Germany. This is especially true when it comes to the U.S.
Once Germany invaded the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union was now portrayed as a heroic nation fighting against the tyranny and aggression of Hitler and this was used by Rosenfeldt (Roosevelt) to provide the Soviet Union with lend-lease, heavily aiding them in their war effort against Germany.
Also, if we look at the Winter War, we see quite clearly that when the Soviet Union is the invading force, it doesn't go as well. And that was just Finland, not Germany. So I want to know, how is Germany attacking the Soviet Union better than vice versa?
And Micheal Hoffman, I do not agree with a lot of what he says, I also don't keep up with his work, but he lays out some facts on this point.
More info about Operation Barbarossa, this time it will be about how the Soviets just allowed the Germans to invade, in a little more detail. This will also further prove that the Soviet Union had no preparation to invade Germany in 1941.
''Red Army planner Valentin Trifonov wrote to Joseph Stalin, noting that Germany was the likely military enemy of the Soviet Union, and the Soviet Union should counter this by focusing on a defensive strategy rather than an offensive one (as the defensive strategy would be more cost-effective).''- 17 June, 1937
''Joseph Stalin was assured by this staff that Germany would not attack the Soviet Union until United Kingdom was defeated. Meanwhile, the United States shared the intelligence of a possible German invasion of the Soviet Union with Soviet Ambassador Konstantin Umansky.'' - March 20 1941
''Winston Churchill warned Joseph Stalin (via the Soviet ambassador in London, England, United Kingdom) German troop movements into Poland detected by British intelligence.''- 3 April 1941
''The Soviet Union protested to Germany regarding border violations by German troops and aircraft. Among the evidence presented was a downed German aircraft in Soviet territory which contained maps of the Soviet Union, aerial photographic equipment, and rolls exposed film. The Soviets, however, remained generally friendly toward Germany''- 22 April 1941
''The German Naval Attaché in Moscow, Russia reported back to German Navy headquarters that it had been learned that the British had deduced the German invasion of the Soviet Union to take place around 26 Jun 1941, and the British had shared this information with the Soviet Union.''- 24 April 1941
The Red Army commenced the movement of substantial forces to the western frontier, but out of the thirty-three divisions deployed only four or five were fully equipped by the outbreak of war.- 13 May 1941
''At a meeting of the Central Committee War Section in Moscow, Russia, the intelligence reports, provided by Communist sympathisers in Germany, that an attack on the Soviet Union was imminent was greeted with much apprehension. Stalin however still refused to accept the intelligence, believing that the reports must be either deliberate provocation of misinformation by the British to get the Soviet Union involved in the war. When General Proskurov, the head of Soviet Intelligence, argued personally with Stalin, he was duly arrested and shot.'' - 21 May 1941
''Soviet spy Richard Sorge, a reporter in the German Embassy in Tokyo, Japan, informed Moscow that the Germans planned to invade in late June. Joseph Stalin, as he had done in so many other reports by his agents, still refused to believe this important intelligence.'' 30 May 1941
''The Soviet Union ordered black-outs in all cities along the border with Germany and the camouflaging of airfields, but still did not deploy for defense; the latter order, the camouflaging of airfields, would be scarcely commenced when the invasion took place.'' 19 Jun 1941
''Soviet military attaché to France Major General Ivan Sousloparov warned his superiors in Moscow, Russia of a potential German invasion, which Joseph Stalin immediately disregarded as British provocation. Stalin's opinion was agreed by head of Soviet State Security Lavrentiy Beria, who told Joseph Stalin that Germany would not attack the Soviet Union in 1941. Georgy Zhukov disagreed, but it would not be until 1905 hours when the military attaché to Germany Mikhail Vorontsov provided concrete evidence of German movement when Stalin and the Politburo were finally convinced to organize two new wartime fronts (rather than peacetime military districts) to prepare the defenses. By the time the telegrams were deciphered many units would already be bombed by German aircraft. Elsewhere, in the evening, Soviet Foreign Minister Vycheslav Molotov met with German Ambassador Friedrich Werner von der Schulenburg and asked him regarding the rumors of invasion, which Schulenburg denied as false. Within hours, however, to Schulenburg's surprise, he would receive orders from his superiors to destroy documents, code books, ciphers, and communications equipment, and he would receive a declaration of war to be delivered to Molotov in the morning.'' 21 Jun 1941
https://ww2db.com/battle_spec.php?battle_id=121
“Golikov therefore had a powerful incentive to tell Stalin only what he wanted to hear, and Stalin refused to believe that Hitler would break the non-aggression pact they had negotiated in 1939. From early in 1941, Soviet intelligence was receiving multiple warnings from within Germany, and from the British and American officials of the risk of a German invasion. On 20 March, Golikov signed a widely distributed assessment of all the current intelligence, which began with the observation: "The majority of agent reports concerning the possibility of war with the USSR in the spring of 1941 come from Anglo-American sources, the goal of which at present is without a doubt to worsen relations between the USSR and Germany."[4] As late as May, even though he knew and had told his superiors that the number of German divisions on the USSR border had been increased from 70 to 107, Golikov forecast that Germany's next military operations would be against the UK, in Gibraltar, North Africa and the Near East.”
3rd para https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipp_Golikov
Stalin had his chief of military intelligence killed for warning him that the Red Army was ill-prepared to defend the USSR against a German invasion (also mentioned above):
“Proskurov sent the first report to Stalin, Vyacheslav Molotov and Marshal Timoshenko on 6 June 1940, warning that as soon as France had been forced to capitulate, the Germans would begin preparing an invasion of the USSR.[4] On 19 June, he followed with a warning about the build up of German troops on the Lithuanian border.[5] This conflicted with Stalin's unshakable belief that Hitler would honour the non-aggression pact.”
4th para https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Proskurov
“In the weeks before the German invasion of the Soviet Union, Timoshenko and Zhukov were worried by reports that German planes were crossing the soviet border at least 10 times a day, and on 13 June, they asked Stalin for permission to put the troops on the western border on high alert, but were overruled because Stalin was convinced that there would be no German invasion before spring 1942.[10]
General Ivan Boldin, deputy commander on the western front, recounted in memoirs published 20 years later that early in the morning of the invasion, on 22 June, when several towns in Belarus, including Grodno, were being bombed, aircraft destroyed on the ground, troops were being strafed, and German paratroopers were landing behind Red Army lines, Timoshenko rang him with an instruction that "no action is to be taken against the Germans without our knowledge ... Comrade Stalin has forbidden to open artillery fire against the Germans".
paras 11-12 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semyon_Timoshenko
“At the outbreak of Operation Barbarossa, Boldin was the deputy of Gen. Dmitry Pavlov, commander of the Western Military District. Both men saw clear indications of the impending attack, but their warnings to the High Command were ignored.”
para 7 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Boldin
“On 21st June, 1941, a German sergeant deserted to the Soviet forces. He informed them that the German Army would attack at dawn the following morning. Joseph Stalin was reluctant to believe the soldier's story and it was not until the German attack took place, Operation Barbarossa, that he finally accepted that his attempts to avoid war with Germany had failed.”
para 6 https://spartacus-educational.com/RUSpavlov.htm
“On 10 June 1941, Zhukov sent a message to the Military Council of the Kiev Special Military District, after someone, most likely the commander of the Kiev district, Mikhail Kirponos, had ordered troops on the border to occupy forward positions. Zhukov ordered: "Such action could provoke the Germans into armed confrontation fraught with all sorts of consequences. Revoke this order immediately and report who, specifically, gave such an unauthorised order." On 11 June, he sent a telegram saying that his immediate superior, Timoshenko, had ordered that they were to report back by 16 June confirming that the troops had been withdrawn from their forward positions." According to the historian David E. Murphy, "the action by Timoshenko and Zhukov must have been initiated at the request of Stalin."[28]”
para 25 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgy_Zhukov
“On 7 June 1941, Kaganovich's former deputy, Boris Vannikov was arrested after he had disputed a decision to halt the production of guns, a month before the German invasion of the USSR.”
5th para https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Kaganovich
Further purges of capable Generals during the war;
“Death penalties were also passed down for other commanders of the Western Front, including the Chief of Staff, Major General Vladimir Klimovskikh; the chief of the communications corps, Major General A. T. Grigoriev; the Chief of Artillery, Lieutenant General of Artillery A. Klich; and Air Force Deputy Chief of the Western Front (who, after the suicide of Major General Aviation I.I. Kopets, was, nominally at least, Chief of the Air Force of the Western Front), Major General Aviation A. I. Tayursky. Also, the commander of the 14th Mechanized Corps, Major General Stepan Oborin, was arrested on 8 July and shot. The commander of the 4th Army, Major General Aleksandr Korobkov, was dismissed on 8 July, arrested the next day and shot on 22 July.”
9th para https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Pavlov_(general)
And Pavlov himself was used as a scapegoat for the planned initial failed Soviet defense against the German invasion.
The early success of Operation Barbarossa was clearly planned. How else can we explain the irrational decision by Stalin to ignore all these warnings of an impending German invasion so that the Soviet defense along their Western border would remain very weak, etc.? The Jews were also engaging in sabotage, as attested to by Soviet WW2 veteran Konstantin Cherniaev.
Soviet WW2 veteran in 2010, testified how Soviet weapons WERE SABOTAGED BY THE JEWS CONTROLLING RUSSIA, (so they would lose first stages of Operation Barbarossa).
“Unfortunately, such a remarkable speech by the Russian front-line soldier Konstantin Chernyaev at the conference of the Russian Thought club, had its negative consequences. First, the conference itself turned out to be very quickly curtailed by a call from informers to the competent authorities of the Cheka-NKVD-KGB. A few months later, gross physical violence was committed against the war veteran.”
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0GSt3-EsLs
Text in English: http://shekina.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=52#p493
Planned long ago ;
Jewish communist Lenin, in his Collected Works, wrote:
"The World War (1914-1918) will see the establishment of Communism in Russia; a second world war will extend its control over Europe; and a third world war will be necessary to make it worldwide"
Page 243
https://www.controversyofzion.info/Controversybook/reeedcontrov.pdf
1913: When Hitler, Trotsky, Tito, Freud, Stalin all lived in the same place
https://bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21859771
Protocol 13
"Who will ever suspect all these people were stage-managed by us according to a political plan, which no one has guessed in many centuries?"
An interesting coincidence during the war;
“Approximately 10 days before the intended start of the summer offensive-19 June-the operations officer of the 23d Panzer Division, which was to participate in the crucial breakthrough west of Voronezh, flew to the front, taking with him a number of highly classified documents in violation of existing security regulations. He crash-landed in Russian-held territory, and the documents, which included a corps order outlining the entire attack plan for the first phase, had disappeared when a German patrol recovered his body three days later. Hitler relieved of command a number of officers whom he held responsible for this incident.
With this plan in Russian hands, the element of surprise was bound to have been lost during the crucial initial phase. Since a change in plans was no longer feasible because of the advanced season, the operation either had to be executed according to the plan or cancelled. Hitler decided to go ahead as planned.
In the Zone of Interior special military police measures were enforced against deserters and men who were absent without leave. Hitler discussed every aspect of the military situation in endless conferences and staff meetings, but refused to make a decision. Halder observed in his diary on 14 January that this type of leadership would result in the destruction of the Army.
Throughout the summer of 1942 General Halder [Chief, Army General Staff] had noted in his diary that he was experiencing increasing difficulties in working with Hitler. The latter's chronic tendency of underrating Russian capabilities had gradually assumed grotesque proportions, finally developing into a positive danger. In fact, the situation had become more and more intolerable for the military. According to Halder, it was almost impossible to accomplish anything useful. Hitler's exercise of command was characterized by pathological reactions to impressions of the moment and by his complete lack of understanding of command procedures.
Under such circumstances, the military men in top-level positions were bound to be the first victims of any unfavorable turn of events. As early as 30 August, for instance, while German progress was still quite satisfactory, Halder noted that the Army leaders had once again been the target of the Fuehrer's abuse. According to Hitler, they suffered from intellectual conceit, mental inflexibility, and a complete incapacity of grasping essentials.”
Pages 141-142, 103 & 165 https://history.army.mil/html/books/104/104-21/cmhPub_104-21.pdf
Hitler continuously prioritized taking over the Caucasus because of the oil, BUT:
once in possession of the oil:
“In a memorandum dated 29 October Oil Brigade Headquarters complained about the situation at Ilskaya, a town southwest of Krasnodar. There, the German outpost line went straight through the oil fields. Inspecting officers from Oil Brigade Headquarters had requested the responsible tactical commander to advance his defensive positions by 900 yards. This request had gone to the chief of staff of Seventeenth Army, who expressed his concern over any such action since German forces faced greatly superior Russian units in that sector. From the German point of view this refusal was all the more regrettable because the Russians had apparently left their drills intact and production could have started sooner there than elsewhere.
The Ilskaya wells produced no oil while under German control. Neither did most of the other wells at Maikop or elsewhere in the Caucasus. Reviewing the German effort to exploit the Caucasus oil resources in his economic survey of 1942, General Thomas stated that the staff of Oil Brigade Caucasus had taken the continuance of the German advance into the Caucasus for granted. Expecting that they would be able to exploit the rich Grozny oil fields, the Oil Brigade personnel had failed to concentrate their efforts on the Maikop and other fields, which had been in German hands for several months. The technical difficulties encountered by the Germans because of Russian demolition of oil wells and transportation facilities were far greater than anticipated. After inspecting the Maikop area the technical experts reported that it would be more effective to use the drilling equipment and personnel of the Oil Brigade in Romania or near Vienna than in the Caucasus.
This suggestion was not accepted. Instead, the Oil Brigade operated at Maikop and elsewhere under precarious circumstances, and the Armavir-Maikop railroad was not reconditioned until too late. When the brigade finally struck oil, its commander was ordered to evacuate and blow up the laboriously reconstructed installations; the small quantities of oil produced could not be taken along due to the lack of transport facilities.
Pages 173-174.
See page 14
https://history.army.mil/html/books/104/104-21/cmhPub_104-21.pdf
By Nov 1940, the common view of Hitler and the military was that the Soviet Union was afraid of Germany and that they had a low opinion of the military potential of the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union wanted to invade Germany, it wouldn't have happened in 1941. This would have given Germany more time to focus its effort on defeating Britain, and time is a very valuable resource during war.
Also if the Soviet Union were to invade Germany, Germany wouldn't have the disadvantage it had as the one invading. Such as attacking a country that is as large as Russia with the Red Army having the capability of prolonging the war by retreating further back as much as they wanted to fight another day. And also, the further the German Army went into Russian territory the longer the supply line got and Germany already had problems with transportation because of the shortage of oil.
They wouldn't have to deal with the muddy season or the dreaded Russian winter. The supply lines would have been much shorter, improving the mobility of the German Army.
And most importantly: the USA and the UK wouldn't have the excuse they needed to provide the Soviet Union lend-lease if the Soviet Union was the aggressor against Germany. This is especially true when it comes to the U.S.
Once Germany invaded the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union was now portrayed as a heroic nation fighting against the tyranny and aggression of Hitler and this was used by Rosenfeldt (Roosevelt) to provide the Soviet Union with lend-lease, heavily aiding them in their war effort against Germany.
Also, if we look at the Winter War, we see quite clearly that when the Soviet Union is the invading force, it doesn't go as well. And that was just Finland, not Germany. So I want to know, how is Germany attacking the Soviet Union better than vice versa?
And Micheal Hoffman, I do not agree with a lot of what he says, I also don't keep up with his work, but he lays out some facts on this point.
More info about Operation Barbarossa, this time it will be about how the Soviets just allowed the Germans to invade, in a little more detail. This will also further prove that the Soviet Union had no preparation to invade Germany in 1941.
''Red Army planner Valentin Trifonov wrote to Joseph Stalin, noting that Germany was the likely military enemy of the Soviet Union, and the Soviet Union should counter this by focusing on a defensive strategy rather than an offensive one (as the defensive strategy would be more cost-effective).''- 17 June, 1937
''Joseph Stalin was assured by this staff that Germany would not attack the Soviet Union until United Kingdom was defeated. Meanwhile, the United States shared the intelligence of a possible German invasion of the Soviet Union with Soviet Ambassador Konstantin Umansky.'' - March 20 1941
''Winston Churchill warned Joseph Stalin (via the Soviet ambassador in London, England, United Kingdom) German troop movements into Poland detected by British intelligence.''- 3 April 1941
''The Soviet Union protested to Germany regarding border violations by German troops and aircraft. Among the evidence presented was a downed German aircraft in Soviet territory which contained maps of the Soviet Union, aerial photographic equipment, and rolls exposed film. The Soviets, however, remained generally friendly toward Germany''- 22 April 1941
''The German Naval Attaché in Moscow, Russia reported back to German Navy headquarters that it had been learned that the British had deduced the German invasion of the Soviet Union to take place around 26 Jun 1941, and the British had shared this information with the Soviet Union.''- 24 April 1941
The Red Army commenced the movement of substantial forces to the western frontier, but out of the thirty-three divisions deployed only four or five were fully equipped by the outbreak of war.- 13 May 1941
''At a meeting of the Central Committee War Section in Moscow, Russia, the intelligence reports, provided by Communist sympathisers in Germany, that an attack on the Soviet Union was imminent was greeted with much apprehension. Stalin however still refused to accept the intelligence, believing that the reports must be either deliberate provocation of misinformation by the British to get the Soviet Union involved in the war. When General Proskurov, the head of Soviet Intelligence, argued personally with Stalin, he was duly arrested and shot.'' - 21 May 1941
''Soviet spy Richard Sorge, a reporter in the German Embassy in Tokyo, Japan, informed Moscow that the Germans planned to invade in late June. Joseph Stalin, as he had done in so many other reports by his agents, still refused to believe this important intelligence.'' 30 May 1941
''The Soviet Union ordered black-outs in all cities along the border with Germany and the camouflaging of airfields, but still did not deploy for defense; the latter order, the camouflaging of airfields, would be scarcely commenced when the invasion took place.'' 19 Jun 1941
''Soviet military attaché to France Major General Ivan Sousloparov warned his superiors in Moscow, Russia of a potential German invasion, which Joseph Stalin immediately disregarded as British provocation. Stalin's opinion was agreed by head of Soviet State Security Lavrentiy Beria, who told Joseph Stalin that Germany would not attack the Soviet Union in 1941. Georgy Zhukov disagreed, but it would not be until 1905 hours when the military attaché to Germany Mikhail Vorontsov provided concrete evidence of German movement when Stalin and the Politburo were finally convinced to organize two new wartime fronts (rather than peacetime military districts) to prepare the defenses. By the time the telegrams were deciphered many units would already be bombed by German aircraft. Elsewhere, in the evening, Soviet Foreign Minister Vycheslav Molotov met with German Ambassador Friedrich Werner von der Schulenburg and asked him regarding the rumors of invasion, which Schulenburg denied as false. Within hours, however, to Schulenburg's surprise, he would receive orders from his superiors to destroy documents, code books, ciphers, and communications equipment, and he would receive a declaration of war to be delivered to Molotov in the morning.'' 21 Jun 1941
https://ww2db.com/battle_spec.php?battle_id=121
“Golikov therefore had a powerful incentive to tell Stalin only what he wanted to hear, and Stalin refused to believe that Hitler would break the non-aggression pact they had negotiated in 1939. From early in 1941, Soviet intelligence was receiving multiple warnings from within Germany, and from the British and American officials of the risk of a German invasion. On 20 March, Golikov signed a widely distributed assessment of all the current intelligence, which began with the observation: "The majority of agent reports concerning the possibility of war with the USSR in the spring of 1941 come from Anglo-American sources, the goal of which at present is without a doubt to worsen relations between the USSR and Germany."[4] As late as May, even though he knew and had told his superiors that the number of German divisions on the USSR border had been increased from 70 to 107, Golikov forecast that Germany's next military operations would be against the UK, in Gibraltar, North Africa and the Near East.”
3rd para https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipp_Golikov
Stalin had his chief of military intelligence killed for warning him that the Red Army was ill-prepared to defend the USSR against a German invasion (also mentioned above):
“Proskurov sent the first report to Stalin, Vyacheslav Molotov and Marshal Timoshenko on 6 June 1940, warning that as soon as France had been forced to capitulate, the Germans would begin preparing an invasion of the USSR.[4] On 19 June, he followed with a warning about the build up of German troops on the Lithuanian border.[5] This conflicted with Stalin's unshakable belief that Hitler would honour the non-aggression pact.”
4th para https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Proskurov
“In the weeks before the German invasion of the Soviet Union, Timoshenko and Zhukov were worried by reports that German planes were crossing the soviet border at least 10 times a day, and on 13 June, they asked Stalin for permission to put the troops on the western border on high alert, but were overruled because Stalin was convinced that there would be no German invasion before spring 1942.[10]
General Ivan Boldin, deputy commander on the western front, recounted in memoirs published 20 years later that early in the morning of the invasion, on 22 June, when several towns in Belarus, including Grodno, were being bombed, aircraft destroyed on the ground, troops were being strafed, and German paratroopers were landing behind Red Army lines, Timoshenko rang him with an instruction that "no action is to be taken against the Germans without our knowledge ... Comrade Stalin has forbidden to open artillery fire against the Germans".
paras 11-12 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semyon_Timoshenko
“At the outbreak of Operation Barbarossa, Boldin was the deputy of Gen. Dmitry Pavlov, commander of the Western Military District. Both men saw clear indications of the impending attack, but their warnings to the High Command were ignored.”
para 7 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Boldin
“On 21st June, 1941, a German sergeant deserted to the Soviet forces. He informed them that the German Army would attack at dawn the following morning. Joseph Stalin was reluctant to believe the soldier's story and it was not until the German attack took place, Operation Barbarossa, that he finally accepted that his attempts to avoid war with Germany had failed.”
para 6 https://spartacus-educational.com/RUSpavlov.htm
“On 10 June 1941, Zhukov sent a message to the Military Council of the Kiev Special Military District, after someone, most likely the commander of the Kiev district, Mikhail Kirponos, had ordered troops on the border to occupy forward positions. Zhukov ordered: "Such action could provoke the Germans into armed confrontation fraught with all sorts of consequences. Revoke this order immediately and report who, specifically, gave such an unauthorised order." On 11 June, he sent a telegram saying that his immediate superior, Timoshenko, had ordered that they were to report back by 16 June confirming that the troops had been withdrawn from their forward positions." According to the historian David E. Murphy, "the action by Timoshenko and Zhukov must have been initiated at the request of Stalin."[28]”
para 25 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgy_Zhukov
“On 7 June 1941, Kaganovich's former deputy, Boris Vannikov was arrested after he had disputed a decision to halt the production of guns, a month before the German invasion of the USSR.”
5th para https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Kaganovich
Further purges of capable Generals during the war;
“Death penalties were also passed down for other commanders of the Western Front, including the Chief of Staff, Major General Vladimir Klimovskikh; the chief of the communications corps, Major General A. T. Grigoriev; the Chief of Artillery, Lieutenant General of Artillery A. Klich; and Air Force Deputy Chief of the Western Front (who, after the suicide of Major General Aviation I.I. Kopets, was, nominally at least, Chief of the Air Force of the Western Front), Major General Aviation A. I. Tayursky. Also, the commander of the 14th Mechanized Corps, Major General Stepan Oborin, was arrested on 8 July and shot. The commander of the 4th Army, Major General Aleksandr Korobkov, was dismissed on 8 July, arrested the next day and shot on 22 July.”
9th para https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Pavlov_(general)
And Pavlov himself was used as a scapegoat for the planned initial failed Soviet defense against the German invasion.
The early success of Operation Barbarossa was clearly planned. How else can we explain the irrational decision by Stalin to ignore all these warnings of an impending German invasion so that the Soviet defense along their Western border would remain very weak, etc.? The Jews were also engaging in sabotage, as attested to by Soviet WW2 veteran Konstantin Cherniaev.
Soviet WW2 veteran in 2010, testified how Soviet weapons WERE SABOTAGED BY THE JEWS CONTROLLING RUSSIA, (so they would lose first stages of Operation Barbarossa).
“Unfortunately, such a remarkable speech by the Russian front-line soldier Konstantin Chernyaev at the conference of the Russian Thought club, had its negative consequences. First, the conference itself turned out to be very quickly curtailed by a call from informers to the competent authorities of the Cheka-NKVD-KGB. A few months later, gross physical violence was committed against the war veteran.”
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0GSt3-EsLs
Text in English: http://shekina.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=52#p493
Planned long ago ;
Jewish communist Lenin, in his Collected Works, wrote:
"The World War (1914-1918) will see the establishment of Communism in Russia; a second world war will extend its control over Europe; and a third world war will be necessary to make it worldwide"
Page 243
https://www.controversyofzion.info/Controversybook/reeedcontrov.pdf
1913: When Hitler, Trotsky, Tito, Freud, Stalin all lived in the same place
https://bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21859771
Protocol 13
"Who will ever suspect all these people were stage-managed by us according to a political plan, which no one has guessed in many centuries?"
An interesting coincidence during the war;
“Approximately 10 days before the intended start of the summer offensive-19 June-the operations officer of the 23d Panzer Division, which was to participate in the crucial breakthrough west of Voronezh, flew to the front, taking with him a number of highly classified documents in violation of existing security regulations. He crash-landed in Russian-held territory, and the documents, which included a corps order outlining the entire attack plan for the first phase, had disappeared when a German patrol recovered his body three days later. Hitler relieved of command a number of officers whom he held responsible for this incident.
With this plan in Russian hands, the element of surprise was bound to have been lost during the crucial initial phase. Since a change in plans was no longer feasible because of the advanced season, the operation either had to be executed according to the plan or cancelled. Hitler decided to go ahead as planned.
In the Zone of Interior special military police measures were enforced against deserters and men who were absent without leave. Hitler discussed every aspect of the military situation in endless conferences and staff meetings, but refused to make a decision. Halder observed in his diary on 14 January that this type of leadership would result in the destruction of the Army.
Throughout the summer of 1942 General Halder [Chief, Army General Staff] had noted in his diary that he was experiencing increasing difficulties in working with Hitler. The latter's chronic tendency of underrating Russian capabilities had gradually assumed grotesque proportions, finally developing into a positive danger. In fact, the situation had become more and more intolerable for the military. According to Halder, it was almost impossible to accomplish anything useful. Hitler's exercise of command was characterized by pathological reactions to impressions of the moment and by his complete lack of understanding of command procedures.
Under such circumstances, the military men in top-level positions were bound to be the first victims of any unfavorable turn of events. As early as 30 August, for instance, while German progress was still quite satisfactory, Halder noted that the Army leaders had once again been the target of the Fuehrer's abuse. According to Hitler, they suffered from intellectual conceit, mental inflexibility, and a complete incapacity of grasping essentials.”
Pages 141-142, 103 & 165 https://history.army.mil/html/books/104/104-21/cmhPub_104-21.pdf
Hitler continuously prioritized taking over the Caucasus because of the oil, BUT:
once in possession of the oil:
“In a memorandum dated 29 October Oil Brigade Headquarters complained about the situation at Ilskaya, a town southwest of Krasnodar. There, the German outpost line went straight through the oil fields. Inspecting officers from Oil Brigade Headquarters had requested the responsible tactical commander to advance his defensive positions by 900 yards. This request had gone to the chief of staff of Seventeenth Army, who expressed his concern over any such action since German forces faced greatly superior Russian units in that sector. From the German point of view this refusal was all the more regrettable because the Russians had apparently left their drills intact and production could have started sooner there than elsewhere.
The Ilskaya wells produced no oil while under German control. Neither did most of the other wells at Maikop or elsewhere in the Caucasus. Reviewing the German effort to exploit the Caucasus oil resources in his economic survey of 1942, General Thomas stated that the staff of Oil Brigade Caucasus had taken the continuance of the German advance into the Caucasus for granted. Expecting that they would be able to exploit the rich Grozny oil fields, the Oil Brigade personnel had failed to concentrate their efforts on the Maikop and other fields, which had been in German hands for several months. The technical difficulties encountered by the Germans because of Russian demolition of oil wells and transportation facilities were far greater than anticipated. After inspecting the Maikop area the technical experts reported that it would be more effective to use the drilling equipment and personnel of the Oil Brigade in Romania or near Vienna than in the Caucasus.
This suggestion was not accepted. Instead, the Oil Brigade operated at Maikop and elsewhere under precarious circumstances, and the Armavir-Maikop railroad was not reconditioned until too late. When the brigade finally struck oil, its commander was ordered to evacuate and blow up the laboriously reconstructed installations; the small quantities of oil produced could not be taken along due to the lack of transport facilities.
Pages 173-174.
Quote from joshf731 on March 22, 2023, 17:44Quote from joshf731 on December 6, 2022, 09:30
“The middle class (largely Jewish) loves Ludendorff, because he gives high posts in the army to Jews.”
p. 24 http://filestore.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pdfs/large/cab-24-148.pdf
Interesting excerpts from the writings of Karl Radek, It seems he had ties to General Ludendorff:
"When I got up next morning, Baron Reignitz inquired whether I would object if Colonel Bauer, a German artillery commander during the war and chief advisor of Ludendorff, had lunch with us. Naturally, I did not object. In the dining-room I discovered a man with the movements of a cat, quite unlike a soldier, and we began to talk of Germany’s internal and external position.''
''He (Bauer) implied that, on this basis, it might be possible for the officer class to make a deal with the Communist Party and Soviet Russia. They realized that we were invincible and that we were Germany’s allies in the struggle against the Entente."
para 2 https://archive.ph/sArvR
Ludendorff's involvement in sending Lenin to Russia from Germany in a sealed train:
''Parvus also made contact with General Erich Ludendorff who later admitted his involvement in his autobiography, My War Memories, 1914-1918 (1920) that he told senior officials: "Our government, in sending Lenin to Russia, took upon itself a tremendous responsibility. From a military point of view his journey was justified, for it was imperative that Russia should fall."
https://spartacus-educational.com/Alexander_Parvus.htm
Possible ties to the Dönmeh Jews who were living in Germany as exiles, many of whom were responsible for the Armenian Genocide/
https://web.archive.org/web/20221008181540/https://files.catbox.moe/8i1c4l.png
Lenin speaking of the Bolshevik Jew Alexander Parvus:
"He fawns upon Hindenburg, assuring his readers that “the German General Staff has taken a stand for a revolution in Russia”, and publishing servile paeans to this “embodiment of the German people’s soul”, its “mighty revolutionary sentiment”. He promises Germany a painless transition to socialism through an alliance between the conservatives and part of the socialists, and through “bread ration cards”.”
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1915/nov/20b.htm
"A Marxist revolutionary, Alexander Helphand (codename Parvus) was working for German intelligence in Copenhagen. He had been friends with Lenin since 1900, and thought that now would be the perfect opportunity to send Lenin back to Russia from exile in Switzerland. He told the German ambassador in Copenhagen that Lenin was “much more raving mad” than the leaders of the Soviet or the Provisional Government, that he would create “the greatest possible chaos,” seize power himself, and conclude a separate peace with Germany."
https://today-in-wwi.tumblr.com/post/158837112438/ludendorff-agrees-to-send-lenin-to-russia
Digging deeper into Ludendorff, despite him writing against Freemasonry and seemingly being opposed to the Freemasons: It seems this opposition was phony and he, himself, was a Freemason.
“In the mid 1920s, a lodge in Munich extended an invitation to Hitler, Ludendorff, and the Munich Chief of Police, Ernst Pöhner, to come to the lodge and discuss some sort of reconciliation between the party and the fraternity. Hitler refused the offer, but Ludendorff and Pöhner accepted. When they arrived they signed the guest book as was customary. Due to the close wartime relationship between Ludendorff and Hindenburg it is not difficult to imagine how Ludendorff’s signature in a Masonic guest book could snowball into a rumor that Hindenburg was a Freemason.”
“Now too eccentric and zany, Ludendorff was an embarrassment to Hitler, who in 1927 claimed he was a Freemason himself, a charge that was never answered.”
https://books.google.se/books?id=Q8L42KtTrw0C&pg=PA159&lpg=PA159&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false
More actions by Ludendorff that indicates he was most likely in the employ of the Judeo-Freemasons.
One of the reasons why the U.S entered the war against Germany was not just because of the (Jewish-created) Zimmerman Telegram; But the war wouldn't have become possible if it weren't for the unrestricted submarine warfare tactic which eventually led to the sinking of Louisiana which gave the Jewish press the opportunity to initiate their anti-German propaganda to rile the people up in the U.S in the upcoming war against Germany.
Who was supportive of this policy? Hindenburg and Ludendorff.
“As 1916 moved into 1917, the impact of Britain’s blockade of Germany was having a major effect. To both Hindenburg and Luderndorff, Germany was threatened with exhaustion. The military situation Germany found herself in at the end of 1916, was not favourable as the loss of life at the Somme and Verdun had been huge. Both Hindenburg and Luderndorff believed that unrestricted submarine warfare was the only solution to Germany’s mounting problems.”
4th last para https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/world-war-one/naval-warfare-and-world-war-one/unrestricted-submarine-warfare/
“As chancellor, Theobald von Bethmann Hollweg (1856-1921) was generally a voice of moderation, particularly after Paul von Hindenburg (1847-1936) and Erich Ludendorff (1865-1937) replaced Erich von Falkenhayn at the Supreme Command of the Army in the summer of 1916. Bethmann Hollweg's hopes for Woodrow Wilson's mediation at the end of 1916 came to nothing, and, over the chancellor's objections, Hindenburg and Ludendorff forced the adoption of unrestricted submarine warfare in March 1917. Bethmann Hollweg remained in office until July, when the passage of the famous “Peace Resolution” forced his resignation and replacement by Georg Michaelis (1857-1936). Here, we see Ludendorff helping to force Bethmann’s resignation by appealing to the Kaiser.”
https://ghdi.ghi-dc.org/sub_document.cfm?document_id=931
Bethmann is the crypto-Jew & was responsible for the outbreak of World War 1. The Kaiser had assured Austria of Germany's support in their efforts in Serbia but wanted them to stop their aggression once they had taken Belgrade.
However the one responsible for escalating this situation and thus dragging Germany into war against Russia by his own accord was the then Chancellor of Germany, Theobald von Bethmann. He ignored Kaiser's original plan and instead wanted to escalate the war even further. He encouraged Austria to go to war against Serbia and other European powers that tried to get involved against this action. When Germany was seen supporting the Austrians in the Balkan wars, Russian decision for general mobilization was made. He was deemed by the historian Fritz Fischer (1909-1999) as a warmonger. Bethmann played a major role in making WW1 happen. It is also said that Bethmann had no regrets for this either.
https://web.archive.org/web/20221108190944/https://files.catbox.moe/njeay7.png
While pretending to be against the war, Bethmann is still noted as being responsible for the outbreak of the July Crisis of 1914 by giving a “blank check” to the Austro-Hungarian empire to take action against Serbia.
“Bethmann nonetheless is thought to have initiated the July crisis of 1914 with the “blank check” to Austria-Hungary for measures against Serbia. Subsequent German warnings to Austria-Hungary and its prospective opponent Russia could not prevent the outbreak of war. Bethmann capitulated to the German general staff, which wanted war immediately.”
https://archive.ph/PxrLA
But Ludendorff and Bethmann were in agreement with the unrestricted submarine warfare policy which led to the U.S. entering the war against Germany, exactly what international Jewry wanted.
More info on Hindenburg and Ludendorff:
The NSDAP was funded and staged in part by Karl Mayr & Ludendorff:
"MAYR, KARL (18??-1945) Bavarian General Staff officer and Hitler's immediate superior in an Army Intelligence Division, 1919-1920. He later became Hitler's opponent, and wrote in his memoirs that it was General Ludendorff who had personally ordered him to have Hitler join the Nazi party and build it up."
last para https://marcuse.faculty.history.ucsb.edu/projects/hitler/sources/40s/41currhist/41vCurrHistHitlersBoss.htm
Ludendorff (and Hindenburg) assisted in the conspiracy to put Lenin into power (See quoted post). He did the same in rising Hitler to power, helping create the ideological conflict for WW2, pitting them against each other.
Hugo Stinnes funded both Hitler and Ludendorff:
- “Stinnes' connection with Ludendorff led to his becoming an influence behind the scenes in German politics.” (Source: Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1922). "Stinnes, Hugo". Encyclopædia Britannica (12th ed.). London & New York)
- “One of them, a German businessman, told me: It is true that Stinnes was an anti-Semite, or, rather, the recognized protector of German anti-Semitism. But he saw in Jew-baiting only an efficient means for diverting the anger of the suffering masses that he exploited so ruthlessly. This is why he freely gave his support and encouragement to the Ludendorff and Hitler groups.” (Source: The American Jewish World, 18 April 1924)
- "Deputy Hoellein stated in the German Reichstag that the industrial magnate, Stinnes, was financing the activities of the anti-Semitic Hitler and Ludendorf in Bavaria." (Source: The American Jewish Year Book 5685, Vol. 26, p. 94)
Hindenburg and the Jews - The American Jewish World, 15 May 1925
Quote from joshf731 on December 6, 2022, 09:30
“The middle class (largely Jewish) loves Ludendorff, because he gives high posts in the army to Jews.”
p. 24 http://filestore.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pdfs/large/cab-24-148.pdf
Interesting excerpts from the writings of Karl Radek, It seems he had ties to General Ludendorff:
"When I got up next morning, Baron Reignitz inquired whether I would object if Colonel Bauer, a German artillery commander during the war and chief advisor of Ludendorff, had lunch with us. Naturally, I did not object. In the dining-room I discovered a man with the movements of a cat, quite unlike a soldier, and we began to talk of Germany’s internal and external position.''
''He (Bauer) implied that, on this basis, it might be possible for the officer class to make a deal with the Communist Party and Soviet Russia. They realized that we were invincible and that we were Germany’s allies in the struggle against the Entente."
para 2 https://archive.ph/sArvR
Ludendorff's involvement in sending Lenin to Russia from Germany in a sealed train:
''Parvus also made contact with General Erich Ludendorff who later admitted his involvement in his autobiography, My War Memories, 1914-1918 (1920) that he told senior officials: "Our government, in sending Lenin to Russia, took upon itself a tremendous responsibility. From a military point of view his journey was justified, for it was imperative that Russia should fall."
https://spartacus-educational.com/Alexander_Parvus.htm
Possible ties to the Dönmeh Jews who were living in Germany as exiles, many of whom were responsible for the Armenian Genocide/
https://web.archive.org/web/20221008181540/https://files.catbox.moe/8i1c4l.png
Lenin speaking of the Bolshevik Jew Alexander Parvus:
"He fawns upon Hindenburg, assuring his readers that “the German General Staff has taken a stand for a revolution in Russia”, and publishing servile paeans to this “embodiment of the German people’s soul”, its “mighty revolutionary sentiment”. He promises Germany a painless transition to socialism through an alliance between the conservatives and part of the socialists, and through “bread ration cards”.”
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1915/nov/20b.htm
"A Marxist revolutionary, Alexander Helphand (codename Parvus) was working for German intelligence in Copenhagen. He had been friends with Lenin since 1900, and thought that now would be the perfect opportunity to send Lenin back to Russia from exile in Switzerland. He told the German ambassador in Copenhagen that Lenin was “much more raving mad” than the leaders of the Soviet or the Provisional Government, that he would create “the greatest possible chaos,” seize power himself, and conclude a separate peace with Germany."
https://today-in-wwi.tumblr.com/post/158837112438/ludendorff-agrees-to-send-lenin-to-russia
Digging deeper into Ludendorff, despite him writing against Freemasonry and seemingly being opposed to the Freemasons: It seems this opposition was phony and he, himself, was a Freemason.
“In the mid 1920s, a lodge in Munich extended an invitation to Hitler, Ludendorff, and the Munich Chief of Police, Ernst Pöhner, to come to the lodge and discuss some sort of reconciliation between the party and the fraternity. Hitler refused the offer, but Ludendorff and Pöhner accepted. When they arrived they signed the guest book as was customary. Due to the close wartime relationship between Ludendorff and Hindenburg it is not difficult to imagine how Ludendorff’s signature in a Masonic guest book could snowball into a rumor that Hindenburg was a Freemason.”
https://oaktrust.library.tamu.edu/bitstream/handle/1969.1/ETD-TAMU-2011-08-9993/THOMAS-DISSERTATION.pdf
“Now too eccentric and zany, Ludendorff was an embarrassment to Hitler, who in 1927 claimed he was a Freemason himself, a charge that was never answered.”
https://books.google.se/books?id=Q8L42KtTrw0C&pg=PA159&lpg=PA159&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false
More actions by Ludendorff that indicates he was most likely in the employ of the Judeo-Freemasons.
One of the reasons why the U.S entered the war against Germany was not just because of the (Jewish-created) Zimmerman Telegram; But the war wouldn't have become possible if it weren't for the unrestricted submarine warfare tactic which eventually led to the sinking of Louisiana which gave the Jewish press the opportunity to initiate their anti-German propaganda to rile the people up in the U.S in the upcoming war against Germany.
Who was supportive of this policy? Hindenburg and Ludendorff.
“As 1916 moved into 1917, the impact of Britain’s blockade of Germany was having a major effect. To both Hindenburg and Luderndorff, Germany was threatened with exhaustion. The military situation Germany found herself in at the end of 1916, was not favourable as the loss of life at the Somme and Verdun had been huge. Both Hindenburg and Luderndorff believed that unrestricted submarine warfare was the only solution to Germany’s mounting problems.”
4th last para https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/world-war-one/naval-warfare-and-world-war-one/unrestricted-submarine-warfare/
“As chancellor, Theobald von Bethmann Hollweg (1856-1921) was generally a voice of moderation, particularly after Paul von Hindenburg (1847-1936) and Erich Ludendorff (1865-1937) replaced Erich von Falkenhayn at the Supreme Command of the Army in the summer of 1916. Bethmann Hollweg's hopes for Woodrow Wilson's mediation at the end of 1916 came to nothing, and, over the chancellor's objections, Hindenburg and Ludendorff forced the adoption of unrestricted submarine warfare in March 1917. Bethmann Hollweg remained in office until July, when the passage of the famous “Peace Resolution” forced his resignation and replacement by Georg Michaelis (1857-1936). Here, we see Ludendorff helping to force Bethmann’s resignation by appealing to the Kaiser.”
https://ghdi.ghi-dc.org/sub_document.cfm?document_id=931
Bethmann is the crypto-Jew & was responsible for the outbreak of World War 1. The Kaiser had assured Austria of Germany's support in their efforts in Serbia but wanted them to stop their aggression once they had taken Belgrade.
However the one responsible for escalating this situation and thus dragging Germany into war against Russia by his own accord was the then Chancellor of Germany, Theobald von Bethmann. He ignored Kaiser's original plan and instead wanted to escalate the war even further. He encouraged Austria to go to war against Serbia and other European powers that tried to get involved against this action. When Germany was seen supporting the Austrians in the Balkan wars, Russian decision for general mobilization was made. He was deemed by the historian Fritz Fischer (1909-1999) as a warmonger. Bethmann played a major role in making WW1 happen. It is also said that Bethmann had no regrets for this either.
https://web.archive.org/web/20221108190944/https://files.catbox.moe/njeay7.png
While pretending to be against the war, Bethmann is still noted as being responsible for the outbreak of the July Crisis of 1914 by giving a “blank check” to the Austro-Hungarian empire to take action against Serbia.
“Bethmann nonetheless is thought to have initiated the July crisis of 1914 with the “blank check” to Austria-Hungary for measures against Serbia. Subsequent German warnings to Austria-Hungary and its prospective opponent Russia could not prevent the outbreak of war. Bethmann capitulated to the German general staff, which wanted war immediately.”
But Ludendorff and Bethmann were in agreement with the unrestricted submarine warfare policy which led to the U.S. entering the war against Germany, exactly what international Jewry wanted.
More info on Hindenburg and Ludendorff:
The NSDAP was funded and staged in part by Karl Mayr & Ludendorff:
"MAYR, KARL (18??-1945) Bavarian General Staff officer and Hitler's immediate superior in an Army Intelligence Division, 1919-1920. He later became Hitler's opponent, and wrote in his memoirs that it was General Ludendorff who had personally ordered him to have Hitler join the Nazi party and build it up."
Ludendorff (and Hindenburg) assisted in the conspiracy to put Lenin into power (See quoted post). He did the same in rising Hitler to power, helping create the ideological conflict for WW2, pitting them against each other.
Hugo Stinnes funded both Hitler and Ludendorff:
- “Stinnes' connection with Ludendorff led to his becoming an influence behind the scenes in German politics.” (Source: Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1922). "Stinnes, Hugo". Encyclopædia Britannica (12th ed.). London & New York)
- “One of them, a German businessman, told me: It is true that Stinnes was an anti-Semite, or, rather, the recognized protector of German anti-Semitism. But he saw in Jew-baiting only an efficient means for diverting the anger of the suffering masses that he exploited so ruthlessly. This is why he freely gave his support and encouragement to the Ludendorff and Hitler groups.” (Source: The American Jewish World, 18 April 1924)
- "Deputy Hoellein stated in the German Reichstag that the industrial magnate, Stinnes, was financing the activities of the anti-Semitic Hitler and Ludendorf in Bavaria." (Source: The American Jewish Year Book 5685, Vol. 26, p. 94)
Hindenburg and the Jews - The American Jewish World, 15 May 1925
Quote from joshf731 on March 29, 2023, 17:48George Lincoln Rockwell - He was most likely a crypto.
It should be noted that Rockwell's party never had a big membership it seems. They only had a few hundred members or even less than that nationally. Despite this, he was made popular because the (((media))) used him and his party as a way to discredit real criticism of Jews through their usual kvetching. This is similar to what the media is doing with the GDL today (headed by a "Jewish Nazi"), despite the GDL being a very small group, they've had many articles written about them in the mainstream media as if they are some sort of 'real threat' when in actuality they aren't, they are just being used to discredit real criticism of Jews and to also push legislation against ''anti-semitism'' ...
And as always, it's centered around the theme...The Nazi and the Hitler theme.
George Lincoln Rockwell - He was most likely a crypto.
This is similar to what the media is doing with the GDL today (headed by a "Jewish Nazi"), despite the GDL being a very small group, they've had many articles written about them in the mainstream media as if they are some sort of 'real threat' when in actuality they aren't, they are just being used to discredit real criticism of Jews and to also push legislation against ''anti-semitism'' ...
And as always, it's centered around the theme...The Nazi and the Hitler theme.
Quote from joshf731 on March 30, 2023, 09:15Another crypto-Jewish 'anti-semite' - Richard Wagner. He was an important figure in Hitler's life.
Other examples:
https://fitzinfo.net/forum/topic/hitler-the-kabbalistic-talmudic-creation-of-ww2/?part=25#postid-937
https://fitzinfo.net/forum/topic/hitler-the-kabbalistic-talmudic-creation-of-ww2/?part=26#postid-1039
Some interesting info about Richard Wagner
"German composer. b. 1813 in Leipzig. Although not a Freemason, he wanted to be. He had many Masonic influences in his life, including his family and friends. His brother-in-law, Prof. Oswald Marbach, was one of the most important personalities in Freemasonry during Wagner’s time, and in view of the Masonic aspects of his Parsifal, it is speculated that he learned much of Masonic ritual and ideas from Marbach. Marbach held the chair of the chapter Baiduin, Zur Linde of Leipzig for more than 30 years, and was an honorary member of more than 50 lodges. Another great friend was the banker, Feustel in Bayreuth, who from 1863-69 was master of the lodge Zur Sonne in Bayreuth. In 1847 Feustel proposed that the lodge abolish the restrictions on non-Christians becoming members. Seemingly, Wagner informed Feustel of his desire to become a member of the lodge Eleusis zur Verschuregenheit in Bayreuth, but was advised not to submit a formal petition as there were members who reproached Wagner for his personal life. Feustel suggested to Wagner that his admission to the lodge would strengthen the opposition of the Bavarian clericals if it was known he was a member of the Craft..''
https://archive.ph/cc7oP
At the bottom of the post are 3 examples of the hidden hand.
''While he was writing Die Feen, Wagner became friends with Heinrich Laube who, along with HEINE, was one of the key figures in the "Young Germans," an informal literary society that rejected the Romantic movement of the first decades of the century in favor of a more politically fueled point of departure.''
para 9 http://www.wagneroperas.com/indexwagnerbio.html
Heinrich Heine’s Relatives: Karl Marx (3rd cousin)
“Marx was an admirer of Heine and his early writings show Heine's influence. In December Heine met the Marxes and got on well with them”
“Many composers have set Heine's works to music...Richard Wagner.”
“Heine was also attracted by the prospect of freedom from German censorship and was interested in the new French utopian political doctrine of Saint-Simonianism. Saint-Simonianism preached a new social order in which meritocracy would replace hereditary distinctions in rank and wealth. There would also be female emancipation and an important role for artists and scientists. Heine frequented some Saint-Simonian meetings after his arrival in Paris but within a few years his enthusiasm for the ideology – and other forms of utopianism – had waned”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Heine
''SAINT-SIMONISM , a 19th-century social reform philosophy and movement, inspired by Claude-Henri de Rouvroy, Comte de Saint-Simon (1760–1825). It had prominent disciples of Jewish descent. Its ultimate goal was a technologically oriented industrial society, under a dictatorship of competent scientist-technicians and property-owning businessmen and bankers, inspired by the bizarre ideology of a "New Christianity" shorn of other-worldliness and asceticism. In a non-violent fashion, caste privileges would be surrendered, work provided for all, rewards allocated according to merit, inheritance abolished, and equality of both sexes established.''
https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/saint-simonism
Heinrich Heine was also a freemason
"Freemasonry enabled its members to lessen their effects, by conferring respectability and normality on mixed identities. Heinrich Heine, a Jew by origin and a Mason, thus saw his own conversion in a way that rejected any form of betrayal."
para 23 https://www.cairn-int.info/journal-archives-juives1-2010-2-page-30.htm#pa23
More Jewish ties to Wagner:
The Hebrew Standard, 4 July 1913
“We will now briefly examine Wagner’s anti-Semitism, which is, indeed, a surprise, when we learn that it was a Jewish composer, Meyerbeer, who assisted him in his attempts to have his operas produced in Paris and another Jew - Hein - whose contact helped with the libretto of “The Flying Dutchman.” In addition, he had MANY Jewish friends.
It is further told that when Leopold Damrosch arranged a concert for him, he was amazed to find the front seats filled with Jews to whom he owed his success, and only Jews were present at the dinner given in his honor on the next day by Damrosch.”
''At the age of 16 he met Richard Wagner, of whom he became a devoted follower and friend. He also became a great admirer and friend of Johannes Brahms. Tausig made piano arrangements of many of Wagner's operas. He also introduced to Wagner his friend Peter Cornelius, another Wagner devotee.''
(note hidden hand)
2nd para https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Tausig
Son of a Rabbi
''Levi's name is indissolubly connected with the increased public appreciation of Wagner's music. He was a longtime friend of Wagner; when preparing for the inaugural Bayreuth Festival, he wrote to his father, "Wagner is the best and noblest of men ... I thank God daily for the privilege to be close to such a man. It is the most beautiful experience of my life".
3rd para https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Levi
"Rubinstein arrived in Tribschen on April 21, 1872, but the very next day Wagner left Switzerland and moved to Bayreuth . In July 1872 Rubinstein appeared in Bayreuth and became Wagner's constant companion and collaborator.
In 1882 he followed Wagner to Italy, lived with Cosima and the children in Venice and regularly played the piano, mostly parts from Wagner's operas, to entertain the family and guests. On October 22, 1882, Rubinstein left Venice completely unexpectedly and went to his parents in Kharkov . When he learned of Wagner's death there in February 1883, he sent Wagner's widow Cosima a telegram of condolence."
paras 8 & 11 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Rubinstein
''Here again, the psychological issue is still not whether Wagner was of Jewish descent, but whether or not Wagner thought he might be, since writers differ on the question of whether or not Geyer himself was Jewish. British writer James Beswick Whitehead, with whom I have discussed the matter, writes:
Wagner's possible Jewish ancestry would be a delicious irony. It certainly appears more than likely that Geyer was his father but was Geyer Jewish? John Chancellor, in his 1978 biography of the composer, states bluntly that he was not. "He could claim the same sturdy descent as the Wagners. His pedigree also went back to the middle of the seventeenth century and his forefathers were also, for the most part, organists in small Thuringian towns and villages". Chancellor blames Nietzsche for raising the question of Geyer's Judaism as an extra seasoning to his charge of illegitimacy, when he had fallen out with Wagner. But, in his book "Wagner & Nietzsche", Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau appears to accept that Geyer was Jewish. The famous singer draws on Robert Gutman to suggest that Richard and Cosima egged each other on in their anti-semitism, because both had Jewish roots to deny. Cosima was the daughter of Liszt and the Comtesse d'Agoult whose maternal grandfather was a Jewish banker from Frankfurt.
"Let us now look at the other side of the coin, for it is also true that Wagner's anti-semitic rhetoric was not matched by his behaviour."
''Wagner's son, Siegfried, also a composer, who died in 1930, refused a request to bar Jewish patrons and artists from Bayreuth. Writing in 1921 he reasoned thus: "We have a great number of loyal, honest and unselfish Jewish friends. They have frequently given us proof of their devotion. You demand that we should turn all these people from our doors for no other reason than that they are Jews? Is that human? Is that Christian? Is that German? Oh no! If we were really to consider such action, we Germans would first of all have to turn into quite different people .... It is a matter of complete indifference to us whether a human being is a Chinese, a Negro, an American, a Red Indian or a Jew. But we could well take lessons from the Jews in solidarity and in helping one another ... If the Jews are willing to support us, they deserve our particular appreciation, for my father attacked and offended them in his writings. They are entitled to hate Bayreuth, and yet, many of them revere my father's works with genuine enthusiasm, in spite of his attacks on them ..."
In passing, it must be said that Wagner, generally, found stress relief in vociferous complaint, and few targets escaped attack, including Germany itself. In a letter to Franz Liszt, of September 1860, he wrote: "It is with horror that I contemplate Germany and my plans for the future there. May God forgive me, but all I can see in Germany is small-mindedness, boorish behaviour,. pretence and arrogance ... Believe me, Franz, we have no Fatherland! If I am a German, it is because Germany lives within me."
And so we return to the question: Was Wagner Jewish? The most interesting, and least explored aspect of Richard Wagner's character lies in his relationship to his stepfather, the painter and actor Ludwig Geyer, from whom he acquired his love of theatre. Various commentators have affirmed that Wagner himself had doubts about his own paternity, but, as I have pointed out, none have explicitly explored the obvious inference, that he may have suspected that he was partly of Jewish descent, through Geyer, whose affair with Wagner's mother pre-dated the death of Wagner's presumed father, Friedrich Wagner, a Police Registrar, who was ill at the time young Richard was conceived, and who died six months after his birth. Soon after this, Wagner's mother, Johanna, married Ludwig Geyer. Richard Wagner himself, I have read, was known as Richard Geyer until, at the age of 14, he had his name legally changed to Wagner. He had apparently taken some abuse at school because of his name and it has always seemed to me that his later anti-semitism may have been motivated, at least in part, by sensitivity to this abuse, and by a kind pre-emptive denial to prevent difficulties and suffering arising from prejudice.
Christian hostility to Jews throughout the centuries was only modified when Jews consented to convert to Christianity, and the history of music abounds in cases where musicians have had to convert in order to able to earn a living. Closer to our own time, Gustav Mahler had to convert in order to secure employment as a conductor at the Vienna Opera. The entire Mendelssohn family also converted and before them, the entire family of Mozart's great librettist, Lorenzo da Ponte. Da Ponte was a picaresque individual, a notorious philanderer and adventurer, from Venice originally, where his Jewish father had converted to Christianity and been baptised together with his three sons. In a wonderful instance of pragmatism, they all took the surname of the Bishop who performed the ceremony.
Ludwig II wrote to Wagner: "It is good, beloved friend, that you are not going to discriminate between Gentiles and Jews when it comes to performing your exalted, sacred work (Parsifal). Nothing is more odious, more disagreeable than such antagonism. Whatever our religions may be, fundamentally, we are all human beings and as such we are brothers, are we not?" (October 1881)
Such speculation is only interesting if there is to be found, in his creative work, any resonance of such an issue, any traces of cultural ambiguity. Music historians have been quick to point out anti-semitic elements in Wagner's libretti: the gold-loving Nibelung lord Alberich as a symbol of Jewish materialism; the jealous rival songsmith Beckmesser, in the Mastersingers of Nuremberg, incapable of original work, who steals the work of others, a symbol of the kind of Jewish creativity Wagner attacked in his polemic writing. But is there reverse side to this coin? Are there any symbols in his libretti, sympathetic to a Jewish heritage in European culture? Surprisingly, there are, but they are of an esoteric nature, and they are not reflective of orthodox Judaism any more than were Wagner's Christian references reflective of Christian orthodoxy."
And then the article cites a few examples of some of Wagner's work where it is sympathetic to Jewish heritage:
"An entry in Cosima Wagner's diary of December 2, 1887, confirms the composer's ambivalence about the opera's meaning for him, at the time of its composition, when he says to her: "I shall still write Parsifal for my wife, but I wouldn't say it's a sign of faith in the German spirit any longer". It is quite likely that this remark reflects Wagner's disenchantment with the German public, which, by then, he had come to feel had given him insufficient support and backing in the creation of the Bayreuth Festival. The first Festpielhaus lost money, and six years elapsed before it could reopen, in 1882, by which time Wagner was exhausted and disenchanted by the response to his embrace of German nationalism. His anti-Semitism had been a calculated part of that posture, and, despite it, support from Jewish musicians in the Festival, and from Berlin Jews of the Festival were significant factors in its survival. Wagner lived to see Parsifal produced in the 1882 Festival, but died the next year."
paras 7-8, 18, 20, 22-24, 19, 30, 42
https://www.revolve.com.au/polemic/wagner.html
I think it's safe to say we can add Wagner to the list of Jewish 'anti-semites'... who, surprise...also seemed to have been married to a Jewish woman.
You can see it in his phenotype
Wagner and his wife
Richard Wagner doing the hidden hand (3 examples)
“Kálmán was born Imre Koppstein in Siófok, then in Austria-Hungary, on the southern shore of Lake Balaton, to a Jewish family. Kálmán initially intended to become a concert pianist, but because of early-onset arthritis, he focused on composition instead. He studied music theory and composition at the National Hungarian Royal Academy of Music (then the Budapest Academy of Music), where he was a fellow student of Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály under Hans Kössler.
Despite his Jewish origins, he was one of Adolf Hitler's favorite composers. After the Anschluss, he rejected Hitler's offer to become an 'honorary Aryan' and was forced to move first to Paris, then to the United States, settling in California in 1940.[2]”
paras 2 & 7 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmerich_K%C3%A1lm%C3%A1n
Another crypto-Jewish 'anti-semite' - Richard Wagner. He was an important figure in Hitler's life.
Other examples:
Some interesting info about Richard Wagner
"German composer. b. 1813 in Leipzig. Although not a Freemason, he wanted to be. He had many Masonic influences in his life, including his family and friends. His brother-in-law, Prof. Oswald Marbach, was one of the most important personalities in Freemasonry during Wagner’s time, and in view of the Masonic aspects of his Parsifal, it is speculated that he learned much of Masonic ritual and ideas from Marbach. Marbach held the chair of the chapter Baiduin, Zur Linde of Leipzig for more than 30 years, and was an honorary member of more than 50 lodges. Another great friend was the banker, Feustel in Bayreuth, who from 1863-69 was master of the lodge Zur Sonne in Bayreuth. In 1847 Feustel proposed that the lodge abolish the restrictions on non-Christians becoming members. Seemingly, Wagner informed Feustel of his desire to become a member of the lodge Eleusis zur Verschuregenheit in Bayreuth, but was advised not to submit a formal petition as there were members who reproached Wagner for his personal life. Feustel suggested to Wagner that his admission to the lodge would strengthen the opposition of the Bavarian clericals if it was known he was a member of the Craft..''
At the bottom of the post are 3 examples of the hidden hand.
''While he was writing Die Feen, Wagner became friends with Heinrich Laube who, along with HEINE, was one of the key figures in the "Young Germans," an informal literary society that rejected the Romantic movement of the first decades of the century in favor of a more politically fueled point of departure.''
para 9 http://www.wagneroperas.com/indexwagnerbio.html
Heinrich Heine’s Relatives: Karl Marx (3rd cousin)
“Marx was an admirer of Heine and his early writings show Heine's influence. In December Heine met the Marxes and got on well with them”
“Many composers have set Heine's works to music...Richard Wagner.”
“Heine was also attracted by the prospect of freedom from German censorship and was interested in the new French utopian political doctrine of Saint-Simonianism. Saint-Simonianism preached a new social order in which meritocracy would replace hereditary distinctions in rank and wealth. There would also be female emancipation and an important role for artists and scientists. Heine frequented some Saint-Simonian meetings after his arrival in Paris but within a few years his enthusiasm for the ideology – and other forms of utopianism – had waned”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Heine
''SAINT-SIMONISM , a 19th-century social reform philosophy and movement, inspired by Claude-Henri de Rouvroy, Comte de Saint-Simon (1760–1825). It had prominent disciples of Jewish descent. Its ultimate goal was a technologically oriented industrial society, under a dictatorship of competent scientist-technicians and property-owning businessmen and bankers, inspired by the bizarre ideology of a "New Christianity" shorn of other-worldliness and asceticism. In a non-violent fashion, caste privileges would be surrendered, work provided for all, rewards allocated according to merit, inheritance abolished, and equality of both sexes established.''
https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/saint-simonism
Heinrich Heine was also a freemason
"Freemasonry enabled its members to lessen their effects, by conferring respectability and normality on mixed identities. Heinrich Heine, a Jew by origin and a Mason, thus saw his own conversion in a way that rejected any form of betrayal."
para 23 https://www.cairn-int.info/journal-archives-juives1-2010-2-page-30.htm#pa23
More Jewish ties to Wagner:
The Hebrew Standard, 4 July 1913
“We will now briefly examine Wagner’s anti-Semitism, which is, indeed, a surprise, when we learn that it was a Jewish composer, Meyerbeer, who assisted him in his attempts to have his operas produced in Paris and another Jew - Hein - whose contact helped with the libretto of “The Flying Dutchman.” In addition, he had MANY Jewish friends.
It is further told that when Leopold Damrosch arranged a concert for him, he was amazed to find the front seats filled with Jews to whom he owed his success, and only Jews were present at the dinner given in his honor on the next day by Damrosch.”
https://www.nli.org.il/en/newspapers/hebstd/1913/07/04/01/article/26/?e=-------en-20--1--img-txIN%7ctxTI--------------1
''At the age of 16 he met Richard Wagner, of whom he became a devoted follower and friend. He also became a great admirer and friend of Johannes Brahms. Tausig made piano arrangements of many of Wagner's operas. He also introduced to Wagner his friend Peter Cornelius, another Wagner devotee.''
(note hidden hand)
2nd para https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Tausig
Son of a Rabbi
''Levi's name is indissolubly connected with the increased public appreciation of Wagner's music. He was a longtime friend of Wagner; when preparing for the inaugural Bayreuth Festival, he wrote to his father, "Wagner is the best and noblest of men ... I thank God daily for the privilege to be close to such a man. It is the most beautiful experience of my life".
3rd para https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Levi
"Rubinstein arrived in Tribschen on April 21, 1872, but the very next day Wagner left Switzerland and moved to Bayreuth . In July 1872 Rubinstein appeared in Bayreuth and became Wagner's constant companion and collaborator.
In 1882 he followed Wagner to Italy, lived with Cosima and the children in Venice and regularly played the piano, mostly parts from Wagner's operas, to entertain the family and guests. On October 22, 1882, Rubinstein left Venice completely unexpectedly and went to his parents in Kharkov . When he learned of Wagner's death there in February 1883, he sent Wagner's widow Cosima a telegram of condolence."
paras 8 & 11 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Rubinstein
''Here again, the psychological issue is still not whether Wagner was of Jewish descent, but whether or not Wagner thought he might be, since writers differ on the question of whether or not Geyer himself was Jewish. British writer James Beswick Whitehead, with whom I have discussed the matter, writes:
Wagner's possible Jewish ancestry would be a delicious irony. It certainly appears more than likely that Geyer was his father but was Geyer Jewish? John Chancellor, in his 1978 biography of the composer, states bluntly that he was not. "He could claim the same sturdy descent as the Wagners. His pedigree also went back to the middle of the seventeenth century and his forefathers were also, for the most part, organists in small Thuringian towns and villages". Chancellor blames Nietzsche for raising the question of Geyer's Judaism as an extra seasoning to his charge of illegitimacy, when he had fallen out with Wagner. But, in his book "Wagner & Nietzsche", Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau appears to accept that Geyer was Jewish. The famous singer draws on Robert Gutman to suggest that Richard and Cosima egged each other on in their anti-semitism, because both had Jewish roots to deny. Cosima was the daughter of Liszt and the Comtesse d'Agoult whose maternal grandfather was a Jewish banker from Frankfurt.
"Let us now look at the other side of the coin, for it is also true that Wagner's anti-semitic rhetoric was not matched by his behaviour."
''Wagner's son, Siegfried, also a composer, who died in 1930, refused a request to bar Jewish patrons and artists from Bayreuth. Writing in 1921 he reasoned thus: "We have a great number of loyal, honest and unselfish Jewish friends. They have frequently given us proof of their devotion. You demand that we should turn all these people from our doors for no other reason than that they are Jews? Is that human? Is that Christian? Is that German? Oh no! If we were really to consider such action, we Germans would first of all have to turn into quite different people .... It is a matter of complete indifference to us whether a human being is a Chinese, a Negro, an American, a Red Indian or a Jew. But we could well take lessons from the Jews in solidarity and in helping one another ... If the Jews are willing to support us, they deserve our particular appreciation, for my father attacked and offended them in his writings. They are entitled to hate Bayreuth, and yet, many of them revere my father's works with genuine enthusiasm, in spite of his attacks on them ..."
In passing, it must be said that Wagner, generally, found stress relief in vociferous complaint, and few targets escaped attack, including Germany itself. In a letter to Franz Liszt, of September 1860, he wrote: "It is with horror that I contemplate Germany and my plans for the future there. May God forgive me, but all I can see in Germany is small-mindedness, boorish behaviour,. pretence and arrogance ... Believe me, Franz, we have no Fatherland! If I am a German, it is because Germany lives within me."
And so we return to the question: Was Wagner Jewish? The most interesting, and least explored aspect of Richard Wagner's character lies in his relationship to his stepfather, the painter and actor Ludwig Geyer, from whom he acquired his love of theatre. Various commentators have affirmed that Wagner himself had doubts about his own paternity, but, as I have pointed out, none have explicitly explored the obvious inference, that he may have suspected that he was partly of Jewish descent, through Geyer, whose affair with Wagner's mother pre-dated the death of Wagner's presumed father, Friedrich Wagner, a Police Registrar, who was ill at the time young Richard was conceived, and who died six months after his birth. Soon after this, Wagner's mother, Johanna, married Ludwig Geyer. Richard Wagner himself, I have read, was known as Richard Geyer until, at the age of 14, he had his name legally changed to Wagner. He had apparently taken some abuse at school because of his name and it has always seemed to me that his later anti-semitism may have been motivated, at least in part, by sensitivity to this abuse, and by a kind pre-emptive denial to prevent difficulties and suffering arising from prejudice.
Christian hostility to Jews throughout the centuries was only modified when Jews consented to convert to Christianity, and the history of music abounds in cases where musicians have had to convert in order to able to earn a living. Closer to our own time, Gustav Mahler had to convert in order to secure employment as a conductor at the Vienna Opera. The entire Mendelssohn family also converted and before them, the entire family of Mozart's great librettist, Lorenzo da Ponte. Da Ponte was a picaresque individual, a notorious philanderer and adventurer, from Venice originally, where his Jewish father had converted to Christianity and been baptised together with his three sons. In a wonderful instance of pragmatism, they all took the surname of the Bishop who performed the ceremony.
Ludwig II wrote to Wagner: "It is good, beloved friend, that you are not going to discriminate between Gentiles and Jews when it comes to performing your exalted, sacred work (Parsifal). Nothing is more odious, more disagreeable than such antagonism. Whatever our religions may be, fundamentally, we are all human beings and as such we are brothers, are we not?" (October 1881)
Such speculation is only interesting if there is to be found, in his creative work, any resonance of such an issue, any traces of cultural ambiguity. Music historians have been quick to point out anti-semitic elements in Wagner's libretti: the gold-loving Nibelung lord Alberich as a symbol of Jewish materialism; the jealous rival songsmith Beckmesser, in the Mastersingers of Nuremberg, incapable of original work, who steals the work of others, a symbol of the kind of Jewish creativity Wagner attacked in his polemic writing. But is there reverse side to this coin? Are there any symbols in his libretti, sympathetic to a Jewish heritage in European culture? Surprisingly, there are, but they are of an esoteric nature, and they are not reflective of orthodox Judaism any more than were Wagner's Christian references reflective of Christian orthodoxy."
And then the article cites a few examples of some of Wagner's work where it is sympathetic to Jewish heritage:
"An entry in Cosima Wagner's diary of December 2, 1887, confirms the composer's ambivalence about the opera's meaning for him, at the time of its composition, when he says to her: "I shall still write Parsifal for my wife, but I wouldn't say it's a sign of faith in the German spirit any longer". It is quite likely that this remark reflects Wagner's disenchantment with the German public, which, by then, he had come to feel had given him insufficient support and backing in the creation of the Bayreuth Festival. The first Festpielhaus lost money, and six years elapsed before it could reopen, in 1882, by which time Wagner was exhausted and disenchanted by the response to his embrace of German nationalism. His anti-Semitism had been a calculated part of that posture, and, despite it, support from Jewish musicians in the Festival, and from Berlin Jews of the Festival were significant factors in its survival. Wagner lived to see Parsifal produced in the 1882 Festival, but died the next year."
paras 7-8, 18, 20, 22-24, 19, 30, 42
https://www.revolve.com.au/polemic/wagner.html
I think it's safe to say we can add Wagner to the list of Jewish 'anti-semites'... who, surprise...also seemed to have been married to a Jewish woman.
You can see it in his phenotype
Wagner and his wife
Richard Wagner doing the hidden hand (3 examples)
“Kálmán was born Imre Koppstein in Siófok, then in Austria-Hungary, on the southern shore of Lake Balaton, to a Jewish family. Kálmán initially intended to become a concert pianist, but because of early-onset arthritis, he focused on composition instead. He studied music theory and composition at the National Hungarian Royal Academy of Music (then the Budapest Academy of Music), where he was a fellow student of Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály under Hans Kössler.
Despite his Jewish origins, he was one of Adolf Hitler's favorite composers. After the Anschluss, he rejected Hitler's offer to become an 'honorary Aryan' and was forced to move first to Paris, then to the United States, settling in California in 1940.[2]”
paras 2 & 7 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmerich_K%C3%A1lm%C3%A1n
Quote from joshf731 on March 30, 2023, 09:38Quote from joshf731 on January 25, 2023, 17:11And back to the CODOH link:
13 of 29 sources come from one book: the Forced War: When Peaceful Revision Failed, By David Hoggan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_L._Hoggan
This guy can hardly be called as a 'neutral source' as the CODOH article claims.
“In 1955, Barnes encouraged Hoggan to turn his dissertation into a book and it was published in West Germany as Der erzwungene Krieg (The Forced War).[4] It blamed the outbreak of World War II on an alleged Anglo-Polish conspiracy to wage aggression against Germany.”
4th para https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_L._Hoggan
“During World War I, Barnes had been a strong supporter of the war effort; his anti-German propaganda was rejected by the National Board for Historical Service, which described it as "too violent to be acceptable".[4] After the war, Barnes' views towards Germany reversed: he became as much of a Germanophile as he previously had been Germanophobic.[4][5] Barnes took the view that the United States had fought on the wrong side in World War I.[5]
In the 1920s, Barnes was noted as a vehement advocate that Germany had borne no responsibility for the outbreak of war in 1914, and had instead been the victim of Allied aggression.”
paras 4-5 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Elmer_Barnes
In this thread, it it quite clear that Germany did play a key role in the outbreak of WW1 through the actions of the crypto-Jew Bethmann
https://joshf731.substack.com/p/how-germany-was-used-by-crypto-jewish
But check this out:
“Barnes' research on the origins of World War I was generously funded in the 1920s by the German Foreign Ministry, which intended to prove that Germany had not started World War I as a way of undermining the Treaty of Versailles.”
6th para https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Elmer_Barnes
What do we know about the German Foreign Ministry? That it was firmly under Jewish control & infested with crypto-Jews. (See substack article)
Barnes also had ties to the CFR;
“In 1922 he wrote an article for the first issue of Foreign Affairs, the foreign policy journal published by the Council on Foreign Relations, having earlier contributed book reviews to The Journal for International Relations, which became Foreign Affairs in 1922.[8] After 1924, Barnes had a close relationship with the Centre for the Study of the Causes of the War, a pseudo-historical think-tank based in Berlin secretly funded by the German government and founded by Major Alfred von Wegerer, the former völkisch activist. The centre's sole purpose was to prove Germany was the victim of aggression in 1914, and that the Versailles treaty was morally invalid.”
6th para.
“Versailles was a combination of thousands of events, meetings, negotiations, and conversations, and the outcome is not easily understood without looking at the details under the surface. In addition, the treaty was so controversial that governments and private citizens sought to influence how it was perceived—almost from the signing on. This was particularly true of the German foreign ministry, whose campaign led to a “pollution of American, British and French historical understanding.” (The ministry’s campaign included the deliberate concealment of documentary evidence, and ACTIVE SUPPORT FOR REVISIONISTS SUCH AS HARRY ELMER BARNES)”
https://brill.com/display/book/9789004331563/B9789004331563_011.xml
“The Central Office for Research into the Causes of War was a private institution financed by the Foreign Office from 1921, which, with revisionist intentions, was intended to collect and publish information and arguments against the German war guilt established in Article 231 of the Versailles Treaty.
The central office's cooperation with the Reich Center for Homeland Service ((Reichszentrale für Heimatdienst (RfH) )) or the working committee of German associations was more geared towards exerting public influence.”
paras 1 & section ‘Organization and activity’, para 5
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zentralstelle_f%C3%BCr_Erforschung_der_Kriegsursachen
Started by and run by Erzberger (Bolshevik Jew) and Scheidemann (crypto-Jew [*], founder of the Weimar Republic and also a Bolshevik supporter)
[*] A German scientist marks Scheidemann down as Jewish in The Cordova daily times, 29 July 1922, Page 6.
Very interesting that this early historical 'revisionist', proclaiming the complete innocence of Germany in WW1 and also of WW2 not only had ties to the Jew-controlled German Foreign Ministry and Centre for the Study of the Causes of the War which collaborated with the propaganda ministry of the Weimar Republic, but also close ties to the major Hitler apologists like Hoggan.
“Neutral sources” btw, says the neo-Nazi CODOH website.
JOURNAL ARTICLE: International Security, Vol. 12, No. 2 (Fall, 1987): Clio Deceived: Patrotic Self-Censorship in Germany after the Great War:
“Perhaps of interest to the readers of this journal is the care lavished upon certain American scholars by the (German) Foreign Ministry and its agents. As previously noted, Wegerer had been sent to the United States in 1925 to assist the Senate in a possible documentary series on the origins of the war; he also used the occasion to contact eminent historians such as Sidney B. Fay, Bernadotte E. Schmitt, William Langer, Carlton J. Hayes, and Ferdinand Schevill. The immediate upshot was that the Foreign Ministry purchased 250 copies of Fay's sympathetic two-volume The Origins of the War and had its diplomatic representatives overseas distribute the books free of charge. The Harvard historian was invited to visit the Center for the Study of the Causes of the War in 1923, and was asked regularly to contribute to its journal, Kriegsschuldfr.
The greatest attention and support was showered upon Harry E. Barnes of Smith College. In articles that appeared in Current History, Nation, Christian Century, and especially in his Genesis of the World War (1927), Barnes depicted France and Russia as the villains, Germany and Austria-Hungary as the victims of the July crisis. Wegerer's Center moved with alacrity after 1924. It provided Barnes with research materials, propagated his writings, and funded his visits to Berlin, Munich, and Vienna in 1926. The German embassy at Washington presented him with all forty volumes of Die Grosse Politik. Lutz put him into contact with the Serb, Boghitschewitsch, who was in the pay of the Foreign Ministry. Wegerer had Barnes's articles translated into German and published in his journal. The ADV translated Barnes's Genesis into German, and with the help of the Foreign Ministry not only distribute it to Germany's overseas missions but even arranged a French translation"
Pages 26-27 https://www.jstor.org/stable/2538811?origin=crossref
Wegerer was the head of the 'Centre for the Study of the Causes of the War'. Just a bit of interesting information in regard to some of these revisionists that abnormally admired Hitler and Nazi Germany. We see him running cover for the Jew involvement in bringing about WW1, in which crypto-Jews in Germany played a major role in making that happen. And portraying Russia as the villain when it became the greatest victim of WW1 through the Jew Bolshevik Revolution which wouldn't have been brought about if it wasn't for the aid the Jew Bolsheviks received from the Jewish-run German Foreign Ministry is highly subversive without this clarification.
HIAG
“HIAG (German: Hilfsgemeinschaft auf Gegenseitigkeit der Angehörigen der ehemaligen Waffen-SS, lit. 'Mutual aid association of former Waffen-SS members') was a lobby group and a denialist veterans' organisation founded by former high-ranking Waffen-SS personnel in West Germany in 1951. Its main objective was to achieve legal, economic, and historical rehabilitation of the Waffen-SS.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIAG
And if we look at one of the key people here:
Felix Steiner
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Steiner
He later worked for the CIA.
“Upon surrender, Felix Steiner was arrested. He faced charges at the Nuremberg Trials, but they were dropped and he was released on April 27, 1948. Five years later, he was recruited by the CIA to help start the Gesellschaft für Wehrkunde (Society for Defence Studies). It was used as a military think tank and propaganda tool for German rearmament.”
para 26 https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/felix-steiner.html?chrome=1
This group, HIAG, with the purpose of making the Waffen-SS look good, had affiliation with the CIA. So this begs the question, why would Steiner, a CIA agent, be one of the key people of a lobby group with the purpose of making an arm of Nazi Germany look good? On top of this, it is interesting to note that British Intelligence had a hand in promoting the Rezun/Suvarov thesis.
Quote from joshf731 on January 25, 2023, 17:11And back to the CODOH link:
13 of 29 sources come from one book: the Forced War: When Peaceful Revision Failed, By David Hoggan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_L._Hoggan
This guy can hardly be called as a 'neutral source' as the CODOH article claims.
“In 1955, Barnes encouraged Hoggan to turn his dissertation into a book and it was published in West Germany as Der erzwungene Krieg (The Forced War).[4] It blamed the outbreak of World War II on an alleged Anglo-Polish conspiracy to wage aggression against Germany.”
4th para https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_L._Hoggan
“During World War I, Barnes had been a strong supporter of the war effort; his anti-German propaganda was rejected by the National Board for Historical Service, which described it as "too violent to be acceptable".[4] After the war, Barnes' views towards Germany reversed: he became as much of a Germanophile as he previously had been Germanophobic.[4][5] Barnes took the view that the United States had fought on the wrong side in World War I.[5]
In the 1920s, Barnes was noted as a vehement advocate that Germany had borne no responsibility for the outbreak of war in 1914, and had instead been the victim of Allied aggression.”
paras 4-5 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Elmer_Barnes
In this thread, it it quite clear that Germany did play a key role in the outbreak of WW1 through the actions of the crypto-Jew Bethmann
https://joshf731.substack.com/p/how-germany-was-used-by-crypto-jewish
But check this out:
“Barnes' research on the origins of World War I was generously funded in the 1920s by the German Foreign Ministry, which intended to prove that Germany had not started World War I as a way of undermining the Treaty of Versailles.”
6th para https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Elmer_Barnes
What do we know about the German Foreign Ministry? That it was firmly under Jewish control & infested with crypto-Jews. (See substack article)
Barnes also had ties to the CFR;
“In 1922 he wrote an article for the first issue of Foreign Affairs, the foreign policy journal published by the Council on Foreign Relations, having earlier contributed book reviews to The Journal for International Relations, which became Foreign Affairs in 1922.[8] After 1924, Barnes had a close relationship with the Centre for the Study of the Causes of the War, a pseudo-historical think-tank based in Berlin secretly funded by the German government and founded by Major Alfred von Wegerer, the former völkisch activist. The centre's sole purpose was to prove Germany was the victim of aggression in 1914, and that the Versailles treaty was morally invalid.”
6th para.
“Versailles was a combination of thousands of events, meetings, negotiations, and conversations, and the outcome is not easily understood without looking at the details under the surface. In addition, the treaty was so controversial that governments and private citizens sought to influence how it was perceived—almost from the signing on. This was particularly true of the German foreign ministry, whose campaign led to a “pollution of American, British and French historical understanding.” (The ministry’s campaign included the deliberate concealment of documentary evidence, and ACTIVE SUPPORT FOR REVISIONISTS SUCH AS HARRY ELMER BARNES)”
https://brill.com/display/book/9789004331563/B9789004331563_011.xml
“The Central Office for Research into the Causes of War was a private institution financed by the Foreign Office from 1921, which, with revisionist intentions, was intended to collect and publish information and arguments against the German war guilt established in Article 231 of the Versailles Treaty.
The central office's cooperation with the Reich Center for Homeland Service ((Reichszentrale für Heimatdienst (RfH) )) or the working committee of German associations was more geared towards exerting public influence.”
paras 1 & section ‘Organization and activity’, para 5
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zentralstelle_f%C3%BCr_Erforschung_der_Kriegsursachen
Started by and run by Erzberger (Bolshevik Jew) and Scheidemann (crypto-Jew [*], founder of the Weimar Republic and also a Bolshevik supporter)
[*] A German scientist marks Scheidemann down as Jewish in The Cordova daily times, 29 July 1922, Page 6.
Very interesting that this early historical 'revisionist', proclaiming the complete innocence of Germany in WW1 and also of WW2 not only had ties to the Jew-controlled German Foreign Ministry and Centre for the Study of the Causes of the War which collaborated with the propaganda ministry of the Weimar Republic, but also close ties to the major Hitler apologists like Hoggan.
“Neutral sources” btw, says the neo-Nazi CODOH website.
JOURNAL ARTICLE: International Security, Vol. 12, No. 2 (Fall, 1987): Clio Deceived: Patrotic Self-Censorship in Germany after the Great War:
“Perhaps of interest to the readers of this journal is the care lavished upon certain American scholars by the (German) Foreign Ministry and its agents. As previously noted, Wegerer had been sent to the United States in 1925 to assist the Senate in a possible documentary series on the origins of the war; he also used the occasion to contact eminent historians such as Sidney B. Fay, Bernadotte E. Schmitt, William Langer, Carlton J. Hayes, and Ferdinand Schevill. The immediate upshot was that the Foreign Ministry purchased 250 copies of Fay's sympathetic two-volume The Origins of the War and had its diplomatic representatives overseas distribute the books free of charge. The Harvard historian was invited to visit the Center for the Study of the Causes of the War in 1923, and was asked regularly to contribute to its journal, Kriegsschuldfr.
The greatest attention and support was showered upon Harry E. Barnes of Smith College. In articles that appeared in Current History, Nation, Christian Century, and especially in his Genesis of the World War (1927), Barnes depicted France and Russia as the villains, Germany and Austria-Hungary as the victims of the July crisis. Wegerer's Center moved with alacrity after 1924. It provided Barnes with research materials, propagated his writings, and funded his visits to Berlin, Munich, and Vienna in 1926. The German embassy at Washington presented him with all forty volumes of Die Grosse Politik. Lutz put him into contact with the Serb, Boghitschewitsch, who was in the pay of the Foreign Ministry. Wegerer had Barnes's articles translated into German and published in his journal. The ADV translated Barnes's Genesis into German, and with the help of the Foreign Ministry not only distribute it to Germany's overseas missions but even arranged a French translation"
Pages 26-27 https://www.jstor.org/stable/2538811?origin=crossref
Wegerer was the head of the 'Centre for the Study of the Causes of the War'. Just a bit of interesting information in regard to some of these revisionists that abnormally admired Hitler and Nazi Germany. We see him running cover for the Jew involvement in bringing about WW1, in which crypto-Jews in Germany played a major role in making that happen. And portraying Russia as the villain when it became the greatest victim of WW1 through the Jew Bolshevik Revolution which wouldn't have been brought about if it wasn't for the aid the Jew Bolsheviks received from the Jewish-run German Foreign Ministry is highly subversive without this clarification.
HIAG
“HIAG (German: Hilfsgemeinschaft auf Gegenseitigkeit der Angehörigen der ehemaligen Waffen-SS, lit. 'Mutual aid association of former Waffen-SS members') was a lobby group and a denialist veterans' organisation founded by former high-ranking Waffen-SS personnel in West Germany in 1951. Its main objective was to achieve legal, economic, and historical rehabilitation of the Waffen-SS.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIAG
And if we look at one of the key people here:
Felix Steiner
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Steiner
He later worked for the CIA.
“Upon surrender, Felix Steiner was arrested. He faced charges at the Nuremberg Trials, but they were dropped and he was released on April 27, 1948. Five years later, he was recruited by the CIA to help start the Gesellschaft für Wehrkunde (Society for Defence Studies). It was used as a military think tank and propaganda tool for German rearmament.”
para 26 https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/felix-steiner.html?chrome=1
This group, HIAG, with the purpose of making the Waffen-SS look good, had affiliation with the CIA. So this begs the question, why would Steiner, a CIA agent, be one of the key people of a lobby group with the purpose of making an arm of Nazi Germany look good? On top of this, it is interesting to note that British Intelligence had a hand in promoting the Rezun/Suvarov thesis.