https://completechristianity.blog/2018/08/27/catholicism-versus-hyper-papalism/

Is Hoffman misrepresenting the Catholic Church as inherently hyper-papal?

“The rise of the Christian Church broke up the intellectual pattern of the classical pagan world. By persecution of this pattern’s ideologies it drove the secret societies into greater secrecy; the pagan intellectuals then reclothed their original ideas in a garment of Christian phraseology, but bestowed the keys of the symbolism only upon those duly initiated and bound to secrecy by their vows. (Chapter 7, The Democratic Tradition Preserved by Secret Societies)”

Some things are cherry picked, for sure. But I think his point that most sedes miss the centuries prior to 1958 is important.

Not having read the book myself let me ask one more question:
A good historical review tries to paint as accurate of a picture as possible, even if it is a detriment to the authors thesis. Did you get the impression from reading the book that Hoffman was telling the whole truth, or was he cherry-picking?

Yes, at least one.

Tim, not sure if you can comment just letting you know that Benedict Rodgers is also a huge advocate of allowing people from CCP owned Hong Kong to immigrate into the UK:

https://www.politicshome.com/thehouse/article/if-the-uk-is-to-be-a-home-for-hong-kongers-they-need-more-than-an-entry-ticket?fbclid=IwAR07ddsZG6b6eldgWGCEa_XXogUW0AuWhFc8bUUdvi1Vh3oDhOedIL8Asqs

https://twitter.com/benedictrogers/status/1496848522641084425

Thanks, A21. I’ll have a look into this.

As I’ve said there have always been good true Catholics and fake bad Catholics, in fact that is a general fact of this world: it’s mixed. That’s true at any time, regardless of the prevailing liturgy and direction. Of course all human institutions need leadership, that’s just how it must be. If this leadership becomes corrupt or captured by satans minions then it is no longer valid leadership if it spews satanic doctrines of various kinds, and imposes such as dogma. If the modern Church disregards dogmas how can they be trusted with anything? How can their Saints be regarded as real Saints? If you notice almost every Pope of Vatican II is a Saint, this cannot be so in reality. Would anyone say that parents ordering a child to murder or steal or otherwise are true parents? No they are bad parents and their criminal directives are not to be followed, same with the Church. They can give good directives as well and those should be obeyed but only those. If a state compels anyone by law to commit satanic activities of various types they are not to be followed but those orders that comply with Christian morals should be followed, in fact they are not necessary to real Christians who voluntarily follow Christian morals anyways if they are real Christians. Outside the pale of the Church it’s all chaff except in singular exceptions which the Lord has aided and chosen specifically.

The Church is such a huge organization that it’s mixed as well, regardless of what some far away hierarchy does. I don’t think the whole Church can just be thrown out the window because of an overall decline. Apocalypse itself describes a decline that ends with the Lord returning. The Tridentine Church was a reaction to the onslaught of greedy, immoral thieves that executed their satanic revolution in the 16th Century. It unified and codified so much that was disparate and confused. If you’ve read the Catechism of Trent it’s a simple, clear explanation of the beliefs of the Church up to that time. How unifying it was to Christendom that you could walk into any parish from Bombay to Chicago and get the same mass in Latin, the homily was obviously in the vernacular but there was no need for this confusion of mass in 3 or more different vernacular languages we get now. The missal had each Saints feast in a book that could be used for a lifetime and passed down, now we get a newspaper missalette that has all sorts of non-catholic things in it, never mentions which Saint the feast is for and is just thrown away every year and is very cheap and gives a changeable impression. But I also think it’s a slippery slope when you start just bashing on the Church, you can come very close to just being Protestant or worse. Then you turn to that garbage outside of it which is the the satanism of the world. However these are critical times, since the jews and allies have risen up since the Holy Inquisition was ended and the Catholic Monarchs became corrupt collaborators we see the corruption speeded up across the board including the Church with it’s infiltration and the wildly changing directives and even disregarding dogma. It’s very hard to watch and be fairly impotent to do much about outside of ourselves. Catholicism was the last bastion against satanism in all its forms, it’s most potent being talmudism and kabbalism and they are the top leadership.

I’ve commented on Hoffman before and I believe he’s of jewish stock, he worked for the jew AP mafia, he’s associated with some obscure movements etc I do think he has some good information though but almost as much spin mixed in. His opus on mind control calls it masonic mind control but skips the ultimate jewish kabbalistic part. His intro to King Kill 33 plays up the surface level masonry as well and also the whole book is by probably an ONI man or unknown really. I was recently reading some Springmeier(not his real name but it sounds very jewish, he says his father worked for the UN, he somehow has all this information from anonymous informants, portland native(highly marxist jewish area like the whole pnw) etc etc etc) and while he has some interesting information it all sounds like an extension of jewish theatrical diversions. If you notice much of this exposer stuff all started in the late 80’s early 90’s when George Bush was openly proclaiming the need for one world government, the Communism Show changed it’s tone and other things. Bill Cooper, ONI and de molay, suddenly emerged as well. Probably not a coincidence.

One major objective of the satanists is to spread satanism of any kind and they know that their power would have many admirers if brought to light only a little bit. The fact that they have grown so powerful through satanic means and got away with it would also inspire criminal behavior by others. Springmeier up plays the freemasons, witches and other satanic orgs and their ghastly but theatrical/lightening rod type of doings, but he only mentions the jews in passing here and there and also spreads occultism by exposing it, he never mentions Talmudism and Kabbalism much, never analyzes the gangsterism that they practice, never makes any sort of main encompassing exposition of it. I do think he does mention that Trauma Based Total Mind Control is based at the back on the Kabbalah though. He mentions judaism but does not mention what that really means, for instance mentions the Bronfman gangsters and says that they are jewish on the surface but are satanists in secret, never mentioning that judaism is a form of satanism and thus spreading misinformation that serves to validate a totally false view of judaism. I believe he does have a single chapter in Be Wise As Serpents that mentions judaism and it’s false whitewash but he never took it beyond that one chapter in a meaningful way. He was given bona fides by being jailed for robbery as well. He mentions naval and military involvement but doesn’t mention Hyman Rickover, the jewish admiral who supposedly started the “nuclear” navy, which is most likely just codeword for the totally satanic navy. His and Wheelers whole thing is that programmed multiples are victims, fair enough, but this is to inspire awe and pity towards these people who by and large follow orders their whole lives and would not give it up if they could. They love the intrigue and luxury etc they are not to be trusted or pitied imo. They are by and large animals of a kind with their masters and or relatives. A lot of them have satanic ancestry and thus are continuing the work of satanists. He is not Catholic and denigrates the Church in places, he pushes the charismatic faux Christianity of many of these “exposers” as well as the masonic version of Christianity that is Baptism, methodism, anglicanism/episcopalianism et al. Has no real knowledge of the Saints or their lives or any other real Christianity. Pushes a neo-judaism where at the end of many of his books will call for a new Moses to lead us to some heaven on earth or some such it’s all very mishmash. It’s equally as murky with most of these exposers really and serves the same purpose as movies, tv, games, newspapers, etc to entertain, recruit, keep busy, keep scared etc all at a profit. I’ve said enough for now lol